Bernie Is A Communist. Democratic Socialism is an Oxymoron

[Iolo/Penderyn]

What parts of socialism are required to “patch up” what “great gaping holes” in capitalism.” Be specific please!

You won't have noticed, but a very great number are still dying from your thieving, and we're all going to die from your atmosphere-pollution. Enjoy your well-policed cave, Nazi!

[Robo]

China isn't communist?

What is China then?

[Robo]

You won't have noticed, but a very great number are still dying from your thieving, and we're all going to die from your atmosphere-pollution. Enjoy your well-policed cave, Nazi!

Who's dying from my thieving? My atmospheric pollution? What atmosphere am I polluting?

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Watching the clips of old white guy Bernie Sanders drool his communism out for the uninformed losers of America I have to chuckle a bit remembering how Hitler blamed the Jews for Germany’s social and economic problems because ole Adolph knew just like Bernie that “BLAME” is the mother of political brilliance. Find somebody to blame. Democrats like to blame whitey for the ghettoes and crime of the black condition. Bernie chooses to blame America’s 1% billionaires for everything including healthcare, wage disparity, housing inequality & crooked BIG banks, as though the 1% most successful among us are responsible for all of everybody else’s woes.

Bernie never tells his pawns that he, Bernie, took his honeymoon with his wife in the old Soviet Union & always respected the communist manifesto and the socialist communist system of government Never mind it crashed & burned and became a corrupt dictatorship imitation of capitalism, just an economic shadow now days of China. Bernie never mentions that he, Bernie himself became a millionaire by never holding a real job, but rather by becoming a professional lifetime politician in the American good old boy capitalist political bribery system in the Washington swamp. Bernie never mentions his agenda is to turn America into the spitting image of the old Soviet Union with the single exception that he, Bernie will make sure that the system will always be established and operated by a true democratic voting system, less the Electoral College. Bernie never tells his pawns that communism never works & that’s why there has never been a communist system established & operated by anything resembling a democratic system. Communism only survives by & with a dictatorship.

I could even have a dime’s worth of respect for Bernie if he’d just tell his pawns the truth about communism & admit the fact that an American communist government would have to abolish the entire Constitution & elect ONLY ONE communist democratically & from that point on the Presidency would be handed down by every President to a successor of his choice and all of Congress would be selected by the communist party headed by the communist President. Then at least Bernie’s pawns could make a clear choice based on truth.

Yeah, he's just another Vladimir Lenin, got the gulags are ready to go

Anytime you see a Trumpkin mention the word "commie" you know they are still living in the 20th Century, probably still dreaming the Old's 88 makes a comeback

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What is China then?

China has a mixed economy, contains elements of capitalism just as the US has elements of socialism, all Bernie has in mind is expanding those elements to address the ills of capitalism, the inequality caused by unchecked profit, he's not talking about abondoning capitalism

[Robo]

Bernie says healthcare is a right, what about expecting people that use healthcare to pay for it, is that a “right” too?

Bernie says a college education is a right. What about folks expecting folks pursuing a college education to pay for it? Isn’t that a “right’ too?

Bernie says a $15.00 an hour minimum wage is a right. How about expecting a $15.00 an hour worker to deliver $15.00 an hour worth of work? Isn’t that also a “right?”

Bernie says the government should create, run & finance Medicare for all, even Bernie now admits that the wealthy ain’t got enough money to pay for that & everybody with a job would have to pay for it and all private healthcare provided by employers & or others, would have to be abolished because that money needs to be given to the fucking government for the Medicare for all program.

Bernie says the Boston Marathon bomber has the right to vote from his jail cell.

Bernie is a fucking kook!!!!!!

Americans have the “RIGHT” to “PURSUE” happiness, with their own fucking money, not taxpayer’s money!

Bernie’s preaching communism AKA “PROGRESSIVISM.”

[evince]

Hello Robo,



Trump the demagogue knows this well. He has zeroed in on immigrants. 'Blaming' them for wrecking the economy. Which is strange as the economy is doing well despite so many immigrants in the country.



Not all super-rich people are greedy and insensitive. But enough of them are to be responsible for all those things.



It was a working vacation. Bernie and his new wife visited Yaroslavl, Russia, as a part of a Sister-City program as Bernie was then mayor of Burlington, VT. Everything else you're reading into it (and omitting) is pure propaganda.



You write a best-selling book, you get rich. Bernie has no problem mixing capitalism with socialism in the correct balance, just as our nation does and should do. Most successful nations do the same thing.



Totally bogus. Complete BS. You're now just putting words in his mouth. Everyone, if you want to know what Bernie is proposing, you'll get a much better understanding if you actually listen to Bernie, not what highly imaginative conservatives claim he says. (with absolutely no actual quote of Bernie ever saying anything like it)



Show us where Bernie claims he wants a dictatorship.

Show US The Quote!

Show US The Quote!

Show US The Quote!

You can't do it.

Your words are like paper in the wind. Fwooosh! Nothing there.



That is totally bogus. The reason Bernie has never said that is because that is not what he envisions. You build up a big stuffed straw man out of Bernie and they you rip it shreds. I hope you are amusing yourself because nothing, absolutely nothing of what you say about Bernie's platform is true. You're peddling total BS.

You can't come up with a good argument to counter what Bernie actually says because Bernie is right and you're wrong.

So you make up all this stuff and put words in his mouth and then claim to dispute it.

Are you having fun arguing with yourself?

Bernie Hired MANFORTS coworker in The Russian beat down in the Ukraine


He is COMPROMONTED you fool

[evince]

China has a mixed economy, contains elements of capitalism just as the US has elements of socialism, all Bernie has in mind is expanding those elements to address the ills of capitalism, the inequality caused by unchecked profit, he's not talking about abondoning capitalism

Bernie is COMPROMONTED



he is TAINTED


why do you Bernie people refuse FACTS just lie the trump bots?

[evince]

Tad Devine???????




He worked on the Sanders campaign the ENTIRE TIME


bernie only recent fired him.


and you Bernie people REFUSE to face that FACT



Bernies "IDEAS" are not "his" ideas folks



they have been around for decades




we don't need him to have those IDEAS put in place


GET IT

[Gonzomin]

Rightys have such strange bunker mentalities. Robo is among the worst. There is no socialism and no capitalism. Every country has a mixture. Scandanavian countries have corporations , private enterprise and citizens work for a living as they do here. They just care about their people more than our wealthy do . They provide healthcare and safety nets. Of all the industrial countries, just one does not have universal healthcare. All the other industrial countries are not Socialists.

In America, we name call and label what we do not want to have here. It is dishonest. It works on rightys very well though. Call it Socialism and the rightys bring out torches and pitchforks. The low level mob mentality is so easy to trigger. Universal healthcare is cheaper, covers all the people and is more humane.

[Minister of Truth]

You must be, what, ....eight four years old?
Only octogenarians and the super old are still hollering about "commies", "bolsheviks", "reds".

I literally cannot think of any millennial, or gen-xer in real life who talks about communism, has a Cold War mindset, or even has any lucid memories of the Soviet Union.


Bernie, and a lot of young people, would like to have a society something like Norway, Sweden, or Denmark.

Bernie could have honeymooned in Scandinavia, but chose the USSR, instead. He also has a history of favoring actual socialist countries in Latin America over merely progressive leftist countries.

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Rightys have such strange bunker mentalities. Robo is among the worst. There is no socialism and no capitalism. Every country has a mixture. Scandanavian countries have corporations , private enterprise and citizens work for a living as they do here. They just care about their people more than our wealthy do . They provide healthcare and safety nets. Of all the industrial countries, just one does not have universal healthcare. All the other industrial countries are not Socialists.

In America, we name call and label what we do not want to have here. It is dishonest. It works on rightys very well though. Call it Socialism and the rightys bring out torches and pitchforks. The low level mob mentality is so easy to trigger. Universal healthcare is cheaper, covers all the people and is more humane.

Appears most Trumpkins on this forum have a junior high understanding of economics and economic systems, they still view the world thru a Cold War lense, the dichotomy makes it easy for them to "understand"

[Into the Night]

Hello Robo,
Trump the demagogue knows this well. He has zeroed in on immigrants. 'Blaming' them for wrecking the economy. Which is strange as the economy is doing well despite so many immigrants in the country.

No, he is putting the blame where it belongs...on the Democrats.

Not all super-rich people are greedy and insensitive. But enough of them are to be responsible for all those things.

Paradox. Which is it, dude?

You write a best-selling book, you get rich. Bernie has no problem mixing capitalism with socialism in the correct balance, just as our nation does and should do.

Nations aren't books.

Most successful nations do the same thing.

Nations aren't books.

Totally bogus. Complete BS. You're now just putting words in his mouth. Everyone, if you want to know what Bernie is proposing, you'll get a much better understanding if you actually listen to Bernie, not what highly imaginative conservatives claim he says. (with absolutely no actual quote of Bernie ever saying anything like it)

Bernie is a socialist. He even says so.

Show us where Bernie claims he wants a dictatorship.

Okay. See the documentation here.

That is totally bogus. The reason Bernie has never said that is because that is not what he envisions. You build up a big stuffed straw man out of Bernie and they you rip it shreds. I hope you are amusing yourself because nothing, absolutely nothing of what you say about Bernie's platform is true. You're peddling total BS.

To implement communism in the United States, you will have to destroy the Constitution so you can replace the government with an oligarchy or dictatorship.

You can't come up with a good argument to counter what Bernie actually says because Bernie is right and you're wrong.

Bernie says he is a socialist. See the goals of socialism here.

So you make up all this stuff and put words in his mouth and then claim to dispute it.

Nope. Bernie says it and continues to say it.

Are you having fun arguing with yourself?

I might ask you the same question. It is YOU that puts so many people on your ignore lists.

[Into the Night]

China has a mixed economy, contains elements of capitalism just as the US has elements of socialism, all Bernie has in mind is expanding those elements to address the ills of capitalism, the inequality caused by unchecked profit, he's not talking about abondoning capitalism

China is communist. It is socialist.

Socialism can only exist by theft. Capitalism has no ills. It is the only economic system that creates wealth. Unchecked profits? Apparently you have no clue what price discovery is.

* It was capitalism that brought the price of steel down to practical levels. The material is everywhere now. Same with aluminum. Aluminum used to be worth more than gold.
* It was capitalism that brought the price of bromine down (a lot!). That material is used in quite a few industries as well.
* It was capitalism that brought the price of paper down to practical levels. It's everywhere now.
* It was capitalism that brought the writing on it down to practical levels. The invention of the printing press revolutionized the distribution of knowledge itself.
* It was capitalism that brought the computer down to practical levels where it's possible and practical to buy a personal one for your home or apartment.
* It was capitalism that brought you the internet, web, and the cloud. Companies like Amazon, Microsoft, Oracle, and literally thousands of other sources made these into the forms they take today.
* It was capitalism that brought you the car., the gasoline to put in it, and the FADEC engine design that runs them.
* It was capitalism that created the pollution control systems in those cars. Capitalism reduced smog, soot, and other air pollution.
* It was capitalism that created the modern sewage treatment plant. Some of these are being improved by capitalism to put out potable water from their discharge points.
* It was capitalism that created the modern refrigerator and air conditioning systems.

The view of the socialist is one of being an ingrate.

[Truth Detector]

Bernie Is A Communist. Democratic Socialism is an Oxymoron

That term is almost as stupid as Wealth Gap meme's and Wealth inequality memes.