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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    World murdering shit you are, let's face it, in a world-murdering country.
    If that's you see, you haven't seen the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Workers create wealth, kid: capitalists steal it.
    WRONG. Both create wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    You're ignorant.
    Starting if with the usual insults I see.
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    Crony capitalism is behind all the mega-successful companies.
    No. Capitalism is behind all the mega-successful companies.
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    Big companies lobby for more regulation to prevent smaller companies from popping up.
    That is crony. It is not capitalism.
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    Regulations make it harder for others to enter a market.
    That is fascism. That is not capitalism.
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    Zuckerberg wants congress to regulate content, and he's volunteered his help.
    Big deal. He'll get bit by the same regulations that everyone else will. He's just too stupid to see it.
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    He doesn't want competitors to serve people facebook rejects.
    No, he doesn't. That doesn't have anything to do with his attempt to regulate content. Non-sequitur fallacy.
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    Amazon is pushing for a federal $15 minimum wage to make it harder for small startups to afford labor.
    Lots of people in the Seattle area are. So? Startups will still form. That won't stop them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    IBM was under a consent decree and the government prohibited them from having fully their own PC.
    Total BS. IBM once DID have their own PC. They fully owned it. It failed in the market.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    So, they outsourced the operating system to Microsoft.
    WRONG. IBM did not write DOS, or CP/M (the immediate parent of DOS), or ISIS (the immediate parent of CP/M) or Windows (descended from the Parc project, which itself descended from the Plato project). IBM's operating system for it's fully owned PC was OS/2, developed by both Microsoft and IBM (since IBM didn't have the resources to write its own operating system for the PC platform).
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    If not for this, you would never have heard of Microsoft.
    Oh yes I would. Their first product was NOT an operating system. Neither was their second, third, or fourth products. They were programming languages. IBM didn't plagiarize DOS until 4 years later. Windows was a couple of years after that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    And, today, IBM would likely be one of the world's biggest companies, if for crony capitalism.
    They still are. They run mostly on inertia these days though.
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    (IBM would also have avoided being decimated with today's weak antitrust attitudes.)
    Why is there only one monopolies commission?
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    Changes in technology can change the leading companies,
    Good for you. That's capitalism in action.
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    but I don't see how that has anything to do, per se, with crony capitalism.
    It doesn't. It's capitalism.
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    If IBM or DEC failed on their own to dominate emerging industries (e.g. the personal computer industry), what does that have to do with crony capitalism?
    It doesn't. It's capitalism.
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    How about companies that lost in an unchanging market they once led?
    Same thing applies. Capitalism changes markets through the creation of wealth.
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    Rare as hen's teeth.
    Unchanging markets? No, you will find them in socialists nations.
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    I don't understand your examples of crony capitalism hurting companies.
    When a company goes crony, the are no longer being capitalists. Crony is not capitalism. It is begging the government to become one of the 'elite' in a socialistic structure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    What did Youtube and Google do that was crony capitalism, and specifically how did it hurt Youtube or Google?
    Political correctness to gain political favor with the government.
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    15 competing playback sites?
    Yup.
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    Youtube commands more user-created video streaming market than ever before,
    No, it doesn't.
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    most of the others have gone way or barely exist now.
    WRONG. They are still there and they are growing.
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    Google search faces no noticeable competition,
    WRONG. There are already a variety of search engines out there.
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    except maybe from Bing (and, that has nothing to do with winning consumers).
    It doesn't?
    [QUOTE=Bobb;3100492]
    Sarch Engines Percentage Market Share
    Search Engine Market Share Worldwide - May 2019
    Google 92.04%
    Yahoo! 2.67% [uses Bing]
    bing 2.39%
    Baidu 0.89% [Chinese]
    YANDEX RU 0.51%
    DuckDuckGo 0.38%

    Argument from randU fallacy.
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    That 92% is the highest for Google ever, in a market that has only been growing.
    WRONG. The only place Google has that large a market share is mobile search (phones).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Crony capitalism is the defect in our political system. I agree that often smaller competition with better ideas comes along and knocks the sox off of the BIG crony crooks, but most usually not until the top dogs have amassed vast and even obscene fortunes for themselves. Just think of how well our economy would work & justice would be achieved if, but for the idiotic regulatory system written most often by Washington lobbyist that makes it near impossible for the little guy to even get started without a bundle of loot from some other banker crook I can’t see reforming that ever happening as long as the duopoly party, two party bribery crooks remain in total power. They’re both too corrupt to be reformed themselves, they own the national media, they own the national debate, they own ballot access & every dime of special interest loot in the country & they’re racing the nation a warp speed into bankruptcy. How does that ever get fixed?
    Well, in your case, stop blindly voting for the Republican, just because they're a Republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Workers create products, capitalist create the condition therefore.
    Workers do the actual work. Capitalists take all of the profit, and then some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gomer View Post
    Bernie sanders and every democrat is a damned domestic enemy communist/ islamist revolutionary and "democratic socialist" is indeed an oxymoron; they know not what they do. reason, logic and reality is further from them every day. confounding and ever increasing confusion is upon the damned like a neverending bomb cyclone of darkness.
    Slow down, breathe slowly a few dozen times. Then try again. You didn't make any sense the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Yep, Democratic Socialism is an oxymoron. Bernie is a fcking Jew. Jews believe gentiles exist to be exploited. Bernie is a Communist because he wants to exploit gentiles.
    Found our Nazi. There are more. They are rightys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Found our Nazi. There are more. They are rightys.
    Nazis are righties by definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Well, in your case, stop blindly voting for the Republican, just because they're a Republican.

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    Why do you assume I vote for anybody?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Yep, Democratic Socialism is an oxymoron. Bernie is a fcking Jew. Jews believe gentiles exist to be exploited. Bernie is a Communist because he wants to exploit gentiles.
    And you are severely intellectually challenged if you actually believe that. Willful ignorance and stupidity has become a religion with many on the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Workers do the actual work. Capitalists take all of the profit, and then some.

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    Inventing, researching, establishing, organizing, insuring & financing aren't "WORK" in lefty land, I know, I know! Small minds create small opportunities and small successes.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Nazis are righties by definition.

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    That's why HITLER named his party the "SOCIALIST WORKER'S PARTY," right?
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Workers create products, capitalist create the condition therefore.
    Just as con-men create situations in which they, too, make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    Please, you know he did it so that he could worship at the altar of communism.

    He went down to Latin America and sang the praises of Marxist and socialist movements there as well. It was probably dishonest of him to never address Che Guevara's mass murders in Cuba.
    It has come to my attention that you have an affinity for trolling, slander, and libel. So your claim that Bernie Sanders is a Stalinist should actually not surprise me.

    I have many relatives, friends, acquaintances who have traveled many times to the USSR and to Fidel Castro's Cuba for both professional travel and personal vacation. There is exactly zero percent chance I would expect any of them to give me a speech on the evils of Che Guevara or Lavrentiy Beria upon return. That is not an expectation people have in real life.

    Russia, Ukraine, and Cuba are wonderful adventures for any sophisticated person with an interest in world culture. A vacation, a honeymoon, or a professional trip to Russia does not have to be justified to Trump ass-lickers, rightwingers, teabaggers, libelers, slanderers, gossipers, or wingnuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Inventing, researching, establishing, organizing, insuring & financing aren't "WORK" in lefty land, I know, I know! Small minds create small opportunities and small successes.
    There is no basis in fact for that statement.

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