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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    I see you're posting drunk again
    Ironic. Back to your padded cell you thread trolling moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    China is a SOCIALIST COMMUNIST government only surviving because they allow some capitalist operations.
    ...and the exploitation of their resources, citizens and air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    True capitalism isn't being practiced in America. "CRONY" Capitalism is being practiced in America. That's when corporations write favorable legislation for themselves that eliminate competition, make them & their crony politicians rich when they pass said legislation. Socialism won't fix that, Dumping the duopoly D's & R's politicians out on their asses & replacing them regularly with honest folks would do the trick, but Americans aren't that informed, interested or politically intelligent. That's why Ben Franklin warned us that justice was ours if we could keep it.
    The FAIR TAX and mandatory term limits on Congress would eliminate that.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    A typical right wing thread devoid of facts and rooted in emotions that were created by right-wing propaganda. Corporations are bogged down with rules that stop them from poisoning the air, land, and water. Even a low-level righty like you can understand the government is the only power that can stand up to corporations. You want the good old days when Pittsburg skies were black at noon and rivers had no fish. Wasn't that a great time? You, idiots, do not understand which side, corporations, or the government is charged with helping the people. https://www.citylab.com/design/2012/...-problem/2185/ ou people are so easy to lead around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Capitalism, as practiced in the US, is grand theft.
    Nope. Capitalism is not theft at all. Capitalism creates wealth. Socialism is theft. It only exist by stealing wealth.
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    Corporations profits are at all-time highs
    This is a problem? Why are you averse to profits?
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    and wages have been stagnant for decades,.
    Wages are not related to corporate profits. They are determined by price discovery.
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    All the profit the workers have created was confiscated by the top 1 percent.
    Nope. You are just angry because you have a shitty job and there are too many people doing the same job as you.
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    Meanwhile, their taxes have gotten slashed over and over.
    So have yours, if you are paying any.
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    Trump has accelerated the plutocracy.
    No, you are trying to justify socialism. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    I forgot you were senseless. The world is dying, arsehole.
    You really think so? Personally, I think the world is beautiful and bountiful.

    You also seem to be a real ingrate. People have installed systems in coal plants and cars to reduce air pollution. They work and they're cheap. I myself have built systems to clean up waterways, including Puget Sound. All of these are built by global corporations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Capitalists everywhere, and right-wing Americans from everybody, as you know. What are they stealing? Everything not nailed down, obviously - and the nails, if they can.
    Capitalists are not thieves. Capitalism creates wealth. Only socialism steals wealth.

    You speak of nails. Capitalism created those nails and made 'em cheap enough to buy by the pound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    True capitalism isn't being practiced in America. "CRONY" Capitalism is being practiced in America. That's when corporations write favorable legislation for themselves that eliminate competition, make them & their crony politicians rich when they pass said legislation. Socialism won't fix that, Dumping the duopoly D's & R's politicians out on their asses & replacing them regularly with honest folks would do the trick, but Americans aren't that informed, interested or politically intelligent. That's why Ben Franklin warned us that justice was ours if we could keep it.
    'Crony capitalism' isn't capitalism. It is not even good business. Some smaller business will come along and easily shoot their kneecaps off.

    IBM was crony. It was practically DESTROYED by the coming of the minicomputer.
    DEC was crony. It was practically DESTROYED by the coming of the personal computer.
    Dow Chemical turned crony. They went whining to the government to institute a fake panic over ozone because a patent of theirs was expiring. That's socialism in the form of fascism by the government. Even Kodak and Agfa is doing better than Dow Chemical right now.
    Boeing produced it's best airplanes when competing against McDonald Douglass. Now they are turning crony. They still have to compete again Airbus though.
    Youtube turned crony. That produced some 15 competing video playback sites. Any one of them could wipe Youtube off the map in the future. Same thing is happening to Google. There are a host of other search engines around now, some of them are pretty good.
    Microsoft turned crony. As a result they have been driven out of the server market, driven out of the automotive market, driven out of the phone market, and are facing the very real possibility of being driven out of the desktop market. Their videogame console business still has to complete against Nintendo. They aren't doing so well against the Switch. The only reason they are doing better than Sony is because Sony is worse than Microsoft.

    Crony isn't capitalism. It is laying about on your past laurels. It won't be long before someone comes along and shoots your kneecaps off, and you might not be aware it happened until well after it happened. Dinosaurs had a helper 'brain' at the base of the spines to relay signals from so far away. There's a certain similarity here with large companies that find it difficult to maneuver when competition DOES inevitably come along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    A typical right wing thread devoid of facts and rooted in emotions that were created by right-wing propaganda. Corporations are bogged down with rules that stop them from poisoning the air, land, and water.
    Nothing stops a corporation from polluting except one thing:

    It's bad for business.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Even a low-level righty like you can understand the government is the only power that can stand up to corporations.
    Only by destroying them.
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    You want the good old days when Pittsburg skies were black at noon and rivers had no fish.
    It was capitalism that cleaned up Pittsburgh, ingrate. Companies like mine. Government did nothing until after the fact.
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    Wasn't that a great time?
    No, that's why companies like mine came along and cleaned it up.
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    You, idiots, do not understand which side, corporations, or the government is charged with helping the people.
    Both are. There is no 'side'. False dichotomy fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What a massive pile of stupid. So based on this response, you have NO clue and so you just bloviate ignorantly. Thanks for the clarification.
    How on earth would you ever understand anything, bumsucker? Your masters have you by the short and curly, don't they, muggins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You really think so? Personally, I think the world is beautiful and bountiful.

    You also seem to be a real ingrate. People have installed systems in coal plants and cars to reduce air pollution. They work and they're cheap. I myself have built systems to clean up waterways, including Puget Sound. All of these are built by global corporations.
    World murdering shit you are, let's face it, in a world-murdering country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Capitalists are not thieves. Capitalism creates wealth. Only socialism steals wealth.

    You speak of nails. Capitalism created those nails and made 'em cheap enough to buy by the pound.
    Workers create wealth, kid: capitalists steal it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    'Crony capitalism' isn't capitalism. It is not even good business. Some smaller business will come along and easily shoot their kneecaps off.

    IBM was crony. It was practically DESTROYED by the coming of the minicomputer.
    You're ignorant. Crony capitalism is behind all the mega-successful companies. Big companies lobby for more regulation to prevent smaller companies from popping up. Regulations make it harder for others to enter a market. Zuckerberg wants congress to regulate content, and he's volunteered his help. He doesn't want competitors to serve people facebook rejects. Amazon is pushing for a federal $15 minimum wage to make it harder for small startups to afford labor.

    IBM was under a consent decree and the government prohibited them from having fully their own PC. So, they outsourced the operating system to Microsoft. If not for this, you would never have heard of Microsoft. And, today, IBM would likely be one of the world's biggest companies, if for crony capitalism. (IBM would also have avoided being decimated with today's weak antitrust attitudes.)

    Changes in technology can change the leading companies, but I don't see how that has anything to do, per se, with crony capitalism. If IBM or DEC failed on their own to dominate emerging industries (e.g. the personal computer industry), what does that have to do with crony capitalism? How about companies that lost in an unchanging market they once led? Rare as hen's teeth.

    Youtube turned crony. That produced some 15 competing video playback sites. Any one of them could wipe Youtube off the map in the future. Same thing is happening to Google. There are a host of other search engines around now, some of them are pretty good.
    I don't understand your examples of crony capitalism hurting companies. What did Youtube and Google do that was crony capitalism, and specifically how did it hurt Youtube or Google? 15 competing playback sites? Youtube commands more user-created video streaming market than ever before, most of the others have gone way or barely exist now. Google search faces no noticeable competition, except maybe from Bing (and, that has nothing to do with winning consumers).

    Sarch Engines Percentage Market Share
    Search Engine Market Share Worldwide - May 2019
    Google 92.04%
    Yahoo! 2.67% [uses Bing]
    bing 2.39%
    Baidu 0.89% [Chinese]
    YANDEX RU 0.51%
    DuckDuckGo 0.38%

    That 92% is the highest for Google ever, in a market that has only been growing.
    Ape lives matter. Stop putting them in zoos. Boycott businesses that don't hire apes.

    Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
    Jews want to turn America into an atheistic, amoral, socialist farmyard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    'Crony capitalism' isn't capitalism. It is not even good business. Some smaller business will come along and easily shoot their kneecaps off.

    IBM was crony. It was practically DESTROYED by the coming of the minicomputer.
    DEC was crony. It was practically DESTROYED by the coming of the personal computer.
    Dow Chemical turned crony. They went whining to the government to institute a fake panic over ozone because a patent of theirs was expiring. That's socialism in the form of fascism by the government. Even Kodak and Agfa is doing better than Dow Chemical right now.
    Boeing produced it's best airplanes when competing against McDonald Douglass. Now they are turning crony. They still have to compete again Airbus though.
    Youtube turned crony. That produced some 15 competing video playback sites. Any one of them could wipe Youtube off the map in the future. Same thing is happening to Google. There are a host of other search engines around now, some of them are pretty good.
    Microsoft turned crony. As a result they have been driven out of the server market, driven out of the automotive market, driven out of the phone market, and are facing the very real possibility of being driven out of the desktop market. Their videogame console business still has to complete against Nintendo. They aren't doing so well against the Switch. The only reason they are doing better than Sony is because Sony is worse than Microsoft.

    Crony isn't capitalism. It is laying about on your past laurels. It won't be long before someone comes along and shoots your kneecaps off, and you might not be aware it happened until well after it happened. Dinosaurs had a helper 'brain' at the base of the spines to relay signals from so far away. There's a certain similarity here with large companies that find it difficult to maneuver when competition DOES inevitably come along.
    Crony capitalism is the defect in our political system. I agree that often smaller competition with better ideas comes along and knocks the sox off of the BIG crony crooks, but most usually not until the top dogs have amassed vast and even obscene fortunes for themselves. Just think of how well our economy would work & justice would be achieved if, but for the idiotic regulatory system written most often by Washington lobbyist that makes it near impossible for the little guy to even get started without a bundle of loot from some other banker crook I can’t see reforming that ever happening as long as the duopoly party, two party bribery crooks remain in total power. They’re both too corrupt to be reformed themselves, they own the national media, they own the national debate, they own ballot access & every dime of special interest loot in the country & they’re racing the nation a warp speed into bankruptcy. How does that ever get fixed?
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Workers create wealth, kid: capitalists steal it.
    Workers create products, capitalist create the condition therefore.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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