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    Default SENATE has enough votes to block SAUDI ARMS SALE by TRUMP!

    Of course, McConnnell says he WILL vote for it! Stay tuned. As IN he will vote for the sale, not the blocking of.

    Senators clinch votes to rebuke Trump on Saudi arms sale

    BY JORDAIN CARNEY AND REBECCA KHEEL - 06/12/19 06:00 AM EDT 217


    Senators have locked in the votes needed for an initial move to block President Trump’s Saudi arms sales, paving the way for a high-stakes veto showdown.
    The Senate is expected to take up the 22 resolutions of disapproval as soon as next week, to block each of the sales, after Trump invoked an emergency provision under the Arms Export Control Act to push through the sales without a congressional review period.

    Because lawmakers are challenging the sales under the same law, they need only a simple majority to send the resolutions to the president.
    With all 47 members of the Democratic caucus expected to support the resolutions, they needed to win over at least four Senate Republicans to have the simple majority needed to send the resolution to the House, where Democrats have pledged to follow suit with blocking the sales.

    Three GOP senators — Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and Todd Young (Ind.) — signed on as sponsors when the resolutions were rolled out last week. A spokesman on Tuesday confirmed that Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) has signed on as a co-sponsor, giving Democrats their crucial fourth vote.
    The unprecedented move to block the sales reflects growing frustration on Capitol Hill about the U.S.-Saudi relationship and would come after two votes fell short in recent years to block arms deals with Saudi Arabia. One, in 2016, garnered support from only 27 senators. The other, in June 2017, had the backing of 47 senators.

    Since then, U.S.-Saudi relations have soured further amid growing concerns about Saudi Arabia’s involvement in the years-long Yemen civil war and the death of Washington Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi in 2018.

    Democrats could also pick up Republican support in addition to the four votes they already have. GOP Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Steve Daines (Mont.), Lisa Murkowski(Alaska) and Jerry Moran (Kan.), along with Young, Paul and Lee, each voted with Democrats on a resolution to end support for the Saudi-led military campaign in Yemen. If each of them votes for the resolution of disapproval on the arms sales, that would give supporters at least eight Republican “yes” votes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Of course, McConnnell says he WILL vote for it! Stay tuned.

    Senators clinch votes to rebuke Trump on Saudi arms sale

    BY JORDAIN CARNEY AND REBECCA KHEEL - 06/12/19 06:00 AM EDT 217


    Senators have locked in the votes needed for an initial move to block President Trump’s Saudi arms sales, paving the way for a high-stakes veto showdown.
    The Senate is expected to take up the 22 resolutions of disapproval as soon as next week, to block each of the sales, after Trump invoked an emergency provision under the Arms Export Control Act to push through the sales without a congressional review period.

    Because lawmakers are challenging the sales under the same law, they need only a simple majority to send the resolutions to the president.
    With all 47 members of the Democratic caucus expected to support the resolutions, they needed to win over at least four Senate Republicans to have the simple majority needed to send the resolution to the House, where Democrats have pledged to follow suit with blocking the sales.

    Three GOP senators — Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and Todd Young (Ind.) — signed on as sponsors when the resolutions were rolled out last week. A spokesman on Tuesday confirmed that Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) has signed on as a co-sponsor, giving Democrats their crucial fourth vote.
    The unprecedented move to block the sales reflects growing frustration on Capitol Hill about the U.S.-Saudi relationship and would come after two votes fell short in recent years to block arms deals with Saudi Arabia. One, in 2016, garnered support from only 27 senators. The other, in June 2017, had the backing of 47 senators.

    Since then, U.S.-Saudi relations have soured further amid growing concerns about Saudi Arabia’s involvement in the years-long Yemen civil war and the death of Washington Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi in 2018.

    Democrats could also pick up Republican support in addition to the four votes they already have. GOP Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Steve Daines (Mont.), Lisa Murkowski(Alaska) and Jerry Moran (Kan.), along with Young, Paul and Lee, each voted with Democrats on a resolution to end support for the Saudi-led military campaign in Yemen. If each of them votes for the resolution of disapproval on the arms sales, that would give supporters at least eight Republican “yes” votes.



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    Had you rather the Saudis get their arms from Russia?

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    The Bolton-Trump alliance wants a war with Iran and the Saudis hate Iran for religious differences, Trump wants them and Israel to get on board. Trump is at the point where he is thinking he needs a war to win in 2020. Selling The Saudis arms is making potential war allies more powerful. Our history is when we sell countries modern and powerful weapons, we wind up sending American soldiers to fight against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
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    Dear God! (And I am NOT a prayerful person). It's just all fucking insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
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    Of course Doris, it goes without saying that you'll have nothing to say about Iran sending millions of landmines to the Houthi rebels. Did you know that they fired Iranian rockets to partially destroy an airport in Saudi yesterday?

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...090351880.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Dear God! (And I am NOT a prayerful person). It's just all fucking insane.
    I find nothing like it in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Had you rather the Saudis get their arms from Russia?
    Russia is their enemy you fucking moronic Twat AND Russia supports Iran.

    Does your mommy know you are on the internet again?

    Furthermore, why do you support the destruction of Yemen you fucking freak?
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Of course Doris, it goes without saying that you'll have nothing to say about Iran sending millions of landmines to the Houthi rebels. Did you know that they fired Iranian rockets to partially destroy an airport in Saudi yesterday?

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...090351880.html
    And just how far would you like to go with this tit for tat SHIT? Would you like to LET IRAN come HERE since we went THERE and let them right the wrongs of EISENHOWER? 60 years later they are STILL PISSED at the US and I think they STILL have every right to be! WE FUCKED THEIR country and very very likely 'the REGION'.

    Who the hell knows whether it would have been a whole lot more stable 60 years later if we had not done the BIDDING of these guys in 1953...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Of course Doris, it goes without saying that you'll have nothing to say about Iran sending millions of landmines to the Houthi rebels. Did you know that they fired Iranian rockets to partially destroy an airport in Saudi yesterday?

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...090351880.html
    Would that be the same Saudi that has murdered hundreds of thousands of Yemeni civilians with British armaments and dismembers opposition journalists ?
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Had you rather the Saudis get their arms from Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I find nothing like it in my experience.
    You will get over it, Super zmoderator.

    Tissue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Had you rather the Saudis get their arms from Russia?

    Serious possibility NOW. After all,Trump NOR JARED would block any efforts for
    SAUDIS to get anything they want from anyone.

    We're through the looking glass now, folks.
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    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Did they block Obama's sale to SA

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