Motorcycle ride

[ThatOwlWoman]

Where I'm at in Cbus area is pretty much the eastern terminus of the corn belt. East of here and the land becomes more forested and hilly as you travel into Appalachian Piedmont country but west of here it's fairly flat farmland in a Beech-Maple climax zone. As you travel west from Ohio it gets flatter and flatter until you transition into the prairie land of central Illinois and that, as you go west past the Missouri River starts transitioning into the Great Plains. Then you're talking real flat. LOL

We drove from STL to Burlington VT a few years ago. Took two days. Driving through Illinois, Indiana, and most of Ohio was unrelentingly boring.... flat flat flat corn corn corn. But Pennsylvania was a surprise... rolling hills, lots of vineyards, and of course Lake Erie.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Most States have places that are crappy and others areas of awe inspiring beauty....except Michigan...Michigan sucks.

You're right. Don't come here. It snows a lot. There are bugs. Way too many trees. Annoying waterfalls. Frigid lake full of horrid fish that you do not want to eat. Everyone's mean, too.

[Mott the Hoople]

My family are the same way with the buckeye attitude, but actually love it up in Michigan. They visit often, in the summer, and my brother even has a big race style boat, that can go 90. You can't do anything with something like that, in Ohio's shallow mud pits. He's taken it out on Lake Michigan a few times.

Actually the UP is spectacular.

[Mott the Hoople]

We drove from STL to Burlington VT a few years ago. Took two days. Driving through Illinois, Indiana, and most of Ohio was unrelentingly boring.... flat flat flat corn corn corn. But Pennsylvania was a surprise... rolling hills, lots of vineyards, and of course Lake Erie.

You must have driven via I-80?

[ThatOwlWoman]

My family are the same way with the buckeye attitude, but actually love it up in Michigan. They visit often, in the summer, and my brother even has a big race style boat, that can go 90. You can't do anything with something like that, in Ohio's shallow mud pits. He's taken it out on Lake Michigan a few times.

Wow -- is that his boat?

[Mott the Hoople]

You're right. Don't come here. It snows a lot. There are bugs. Way too many trees. Annoying waterfalls. Frigid lake full of horrid fish that you do not want to eat. Everyone's mean, too.

I’ve heard from some reliable sources on JPP that the Owl’s there are particularly vicious?

[Jade Dragon]

Actually the UP is spectacular.

So is Northern lower, but southern isn't anything to rave about. Just run of the mill urban, farmland, and forest. Similar to western Ohio, just with more lakes. Up in northern lower it's great. You have Torch Lake, which is often compared with Lake Como, in Italy. Lot's of pricey homes around it, and has had several well known occupants to the area. The rapper Eminem, Micheal Moore, to name a few.

[Jade Dragon]

Wow -- is that his boat?

That's the boat he bought. I've been in it a few times, but I've been too iffy with physical issues to ride in it recently. Problem is it's like all high performance things, and the upkeep, and repairs is staggering.

[ThatOwlWoman]

That's the boat he bought. I've been in it a few times, but I've been to iffy with physical issues to ride in it recently. Problem is it's like all high performance things, and the upkeep, and repairs is staggering.

I can imagine. Everyone I've ever known who has or had a boat has complained about the costs of maintaining it, and how expensive it is just to take it out.... and those were just regular boats. Does he race professionally? Isn't that called a "cigar boat"?

[ThatOwlWoman]

Actually the UP is spectacular.

No, it's a hellhole. See above.

[ThatOwlWoman]

You must have driven via I-80?

I-70 through Columbus, then a jog north where we picked up I-90. We stayed in Erie for the night. Upstate NY is beautiful!

[ThatOwlWoman]

I’ve heard from some reliable sources on JPP that the Owl’s there are particularly vicious?

Eat your eyeballs right out, w... er, they will.

[Jade Dragon]

I can imagine. Everyone I've ever known who has or had a boat has complained about the costs of maintaining it, and how expensive it is just to take it out.... and those were just regular boats. Does he race professionally? Isn't that called a "cigar boat"?

He races for fun. I don't know anything about a nickname for the type of boat though. Luckily he does the work himself, but parts still cost money.

[leaningright]

Somebody on this thread said something about a lake being a mud hole or something like that. Well, that the nickname for the lake where I live. I can have my boat in the water in 5 minutes though and have learned to catch plenty of fish out of that mud hole. Also, I’m within an hour or so of several clear water lakes, but when it comes to fishing I prefer the mud hole. There aren’t any boats going 90 on it though. I will run it at about 55-60. Notice the brown, chocolate milk colored water in the background of the pictures and you see why I call it the mud hole even though it is my favorite lake.

[Bill]

Nice mud hole...lol