Republicans can't deal with medical care:

[Flash]

Of course, your figures are the result of Trump's tax cuts and his massive spending.

Exactly. We need big spending cuts so the government does not require trillions in taxes taken out of the economy.

[rjhenn]

Exactly. We need big spending cuts so the government does not require trillions in taxes taken out of the economy.

There are things that we need more spending on, but Trump and the GOP have no interest in actually running the country. They're all for running it into the ground.

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[rjhenn]

Exactly. We need big spending cuts so the government does not require trillions in taxes taken out of the economy.

And, typically, that "trillions in taxes" is put right back into the economy.


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[Into the Night]

I understand. But as of now Congress has not decided to do that. People will not be entitled to receive those benefits unless and until Congress decides to make big tax increases and/or borrow more money and increase the debt. Americans are not that anxious to pay higher taxes or increase the federal debt and deficit. People entitled to collect those benefits cannot do so until we determine where the money will come from.

A tax sufficient to pay for nationalized health care or health care insurance will cause a revolt and tax crash. Borrowing sufficient money to fund nationalized health care or insurance will cause a bond crash. Printing sufficient money to pay for nationalized health or insurance care will cause a cash crash. In effect, the U.S. government has already spent itself to the point of instability. There is no room to add such a massive funding program.

Such things as the Canadian health care system have effectively already collapsed. There is no functional Canadian health care system except what you privately purchase, basically for the same reason.

The United States has built the best health care system in the world....through private funding and capitalism.

[Into the Night]

Maybe, but when we add all those people who do not have insurance paid by themselves/employer it results in big spending increases. Sander's plan was estimated to cost $10 trillion.

The total revenue from all tax receipts is $3.5 trillion. Want to see your taxes triple? Neither do I.

[Into the Night]

That was not my reaction at all. I questioned whether something could be considered a "human right" when somebody else was obligated to pay for it.

Absolute correct. Socialism is not a human right.

[Into the Night]

In the system we're talking about, the premiums are paid through taxes and everyone except the superrich pays taxes.

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The superrich pay a LOT of taxes.

[Into the Night]

There's no need to play it innocent, you little egomaniac. You speak of rights as if you penned the Bill of Rights yourself. lol

Show me anywhere in this country's founding documents where it states that I have to pay for someone else's healthcare, welfare or any other care that gives you degenerates a reason to breathe.

Exactly. Socialism is unconstitutional in the United States. The federal government was never given the authority to implement socialism.

[Into the Night]

The top 1% also take a lion's share of the income.

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Not a zero sum game. Capitalism creates wealth. Your avarice for other people's money is obvious.

[Into the Night]

The superrich were the main beneficiaries of the Trump tax scam.

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Reducing taxes across the board is not a 'tax scam'. The only people that pay no taxes are the poor and the homeless.

[Into the Night]

Yes, but they still pay more than the bottom 90% combined.

Also, if you taxed the superrich 100%, you would still not increase the federal budget by the $10 trillion needed. Of course, since you are taking everything they make, they will probably just leave.

[Into the Night]

If we would raise the rates on the top 1% a bit, we could balance the budget and they'd still have more than they know what to do with.

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No, it wouldn't. All it would do is give Congress more money to waste. The deficit would still be there. If the budget was balanced, the bond market would collapse, and most banks along with it. Is this what you really want?

[Into the Night]

It would have to be more than "a bit." All Americans earn about $10 trillion annually and the top 1% earns about $2 trillion and they paid $567 billion in federal income taxes. That leaves them $1.32 trillion and we would have to take $1 trillion of that to balance the budget. That means taxing them $1.567 of $2 trillion to balance the budget. Government has no business taking 72% of anybody's income.

2018 budget deficitt is $1.1 trillion. The current U.S. debt is $22 trillion. To balance the budget, you will have to pay off this debt.

There isn't enough money among the top 1% to pay it.

[Gonzomin]

A tax sufficient to pay for nationalized health care or health care insurance will cause a revolt and tax crash. Borrowing sufficient money to fund nationalized health care or insurance will cause a bond crash. Printing sufficient money to pay for nationalized health or insurance care will cause a cash crash. In effect, the U.S. government has already spent itself to the point of instability. There is no room to add such a massive funding program.

Such things as the Canadian health care system have effectively already collapsed. There is no functional Canadian health care system except what you privately purchase, basically for the same reason.

The United States has built the best health care system in the world....through private funding and capitalism.

Universal healthcare costs are half what we spend. Our healthcare system is rated the worst in industrialized nations. We could help finance it by moving Medicare and VA money to it. With national healthcare, we would not need them.

[Into the Night]

Of course, your figures are the result of Trump's tax cuts and his massive spending.

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WRONG. Under Obama, the debt rose from $10.4 trillion to $20 trillion. Under Trump, the debt rose from $20 trillion to $21 trillion; a far better performance. The deficit has been radically REDUCED to around $1.1 trillion. It was much higher under Obama.