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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    I live in Michigan. we were promised a couple of decades ago that voting in no-fault would slash our insurance rates. We pay the highest prices in the nation. I cannot see auto insurance dropping.
    I'll bet we're worse in NY. We heard the same thing about no fault.

    I guess I'll just spell it out for you.
    I already asked you a question about collision vs. liability. If you've ever reported an accident to your insurer, what's the first question they ask?

    "Was anybody hurt?"

    Bodily injury can cost an insurer millions. A depreciated car? Not so much.

    If everyone in the nation has full healthcare coverage, an insurer wouldn't be covering the medical issues associated with a car accident.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    ... I already asked you a question about collision vs. liability. If you've ever reported an accident to your insurer, what's the first question they ask?
    "Was anybody hurt?"
    Bodily injury can cost an insurer millions. A depreciated car? Not so much.
    If everyone in the nation has full healthcare coverage, an insurer wouldn't be covering the medical issues associated with a car accident.
    Any of this group's members knowledgeable about auto insurance?

    Don't medical insurers go after the party responsible for the accident when they're paying costs consequential to an auto accident? Don't medical insurers seek to regain their costs? I know that hospitals go that route because they always ask if the injury was due to an auto accident.

    I recall insurance companies inquiring about my medical insurance when I applied for auto insurance. I didn't acknowledge my medical coverage and seek any discount on my insurance rate. Have you ever have dealt with two service and/or product providers pointing at each other when someone's responsible for the loss you're incurring? I didn't want that to happen because I'm receiving an auto insurance discount due to my medical insurance. I suspect I wasn't making the frugal choice, but I wasn't so poor as to wish dealing with such a hassle.

    How much of a discount could I have passed up?

    I suppose if all USA legal residents were covered by adequate medical insurance, both our nation's aggregate medical and aggregate auto insurance costs would be less than they are now.

    Respectfully, Supposn

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    As evidenced, Repukes cannot deal with anything decent and civilized but enjoying running with treason, moral rot, crimes against humanity, grand larceny and other atrocities against a nation and the common decency of humanity and civilization. The republican party appears to have become the party of the Beast that should be shunned and condemned among any civilized entity. After all it is the repuke party that partly and lawlessly introduced this demagogue and global tyrant tRump on the global scene and in violation of U.S. Constitutional law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supposn View Post
    Any of this group's members knowledgeable about auto insurance?

    Don't medical insurers go after the party responsible for the accident when they're paying costs consequential to an auto accident? Don't medical insurers seek to regain their costs? I know that hospitals go that route because they always ask if the injury was due to an auto accident.

    I recall insurance companies inquiring about my medical insurance when I applied for auto insurance. I didn't acknowledge my medical coverage and seek any discount on my insurance rate. Have you ever have dealt with two service and/or product providers pointing at each other when someone's responsible for the loss you're incurring? I didn't want that to happen because I'm receiving an auto insurance discount due to my medical insurance. I suspect I wasn't making the frugal choice, but I wasn't so poor as to wish dealing with such a hassle.

    How much of a discount could I have passed up?

    I suppose if all USA legal residents were covered by adequate medical insurance, both our nation's aggregate medical and aggregate auto insurance costs would be less than they are now.

    Respectfully, Supposn
    Does not matter. When you get Medicare, you should be less of potential liability to insurance companies. That gets you no price breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I'll bet we're worse in NY. We heard the same thing about no fault.

    I guess I'll just spell it out for you.
    I already asked you a question about collision vs. liability. If you've ever reported an accident to your insurer, what's the first question they ask?

    "Was anybody hurt?"

    Bodily injury can cost an insurer millions. A depreciated car? Not so much.

    If everyone in the nation has full healthcare coverage, an insurer wouldn't be covering the medical issues associated with a car accident.
    Medicare did not get me a price break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supposn View Post
    Any of this group's members knowledgeable about auto insurance?

    Don't medical insurers go after the party responsible for the accident when they're paying costs consequential to an auto accident? Don't medical insurers seek to regain their costs? I know that hospitals go that route because they always ask if the injury was due to an auto accident.

    I recall insurance companies inquiring about my medical insurance when I applied for auto insurance. I didn't acknowledge my medical coverage and seek any discount on my insurance rate. Have you ever have dealt with two service and/or product providers pointing at each other when someone's responsible for the loss you're incurring? I didn't want that to happen because I'm receiving an auto insurance discount due to my medical insurance. I suspect I wasn't making the frugal choice, but I wasn't so poor as to wish dealing with such a hassle.

    How much of a discount could I have passed up?

    I suppose if all USA legal residents were covered by adequate medical insurance, both our nation's aggregate medical and aggregate auto insurance costs would be less than they are now.

    Respectfully, Supposn
    Exactly my point.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Medicare did not get me a price break.
    Because you could hit/injure someone who doesn't have Medicare as a healthcare provider.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Well...the term 'human right' is a lot like 'Democratic Socialism'. It just doesn't sound right.

    However, healthcare should NOT be based on profits, which is what it is in this country. The only place in the world where profit is the number one consideration for insurance companies.

    We can discuss the problems with the 'free' healthcare systems in the world, but somewhere in the middle is where the answer lies.
    The problem of profits and cost are not caused by the insurance companies--they are a small part of the cost and their profits are only about 4-5%. The major cost is from the providers, not insurance. Those same profits exist occur in Medicare and Medicaid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The problem of profits and cost are not caused by the insurance companies--they are a small part of the cost and their profits are only about 4-5%. The major cost is from the providers, not insurance. Those same profits exist occur in Medicare and Medicaid.
    I said 'healthcare', not 'health insurance'. Big Pharma is the biggest problem, which has astronomical profits. The profit margin you cite for insurers is calculated after lobbying, CEO pay, and other unnecessary general expenditures.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I said 'healthcare', not 'health insurance'. Big Pharma is the biggest problem, which has astronomical profits. The profit margin you cite for insurers is calculated after lobbying, CEO pay, and other unnecessary general expenditures.
    You also said "The only place in the world where profit is the number one consideration for insurance companies."

    Of course CEO pay or lobbying is not part of profits.

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    [QUOTE=Supposn;3103553]CFM, you're correct. /QUOTE]

    That's all that matters. Next time maybe you'll listen and not be embarrassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supposn View Post
    CFM, you're correct. The words healthcare, airforce, electricity, submarine, do not appear in the original Constitution. But all of those words and healthcare do appear somewhere among the federal statutes and regulations that were later passed and enacted or in other manners complied with the U.S. Constitution. ...
    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Supposn posted, "CFM, you're correct". That's all that matters. Next time maybe you'll listen and not be embarrassed.
    CFM, you contend the Constitution of the United States cannot be binding upon any legal issue regarding healthcare, airforces, electricity, submarines; and that's all that matters?
    Respectfully, Supposn

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Didn't Trump promise us a universal health care system? Better and cheaper than Obamacare.


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    Ya ... he tripled my healthcare costs .... die Obama bitch !

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    Repukes cannot deal with anything other than being treasonous and antigovernment conspiring criminals against humanity and a nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    As evidenced, Repukes cannot deal with anything decent and civilized but enjoying running with treason, moral rot, crimes against humanity, grand larceny and other atrocities against a nation and the common decency of humanity and civilization. The republican party appears to have become the party of the Beast that should be shunned and condemned among any civilized entity. After all it is the repuke party that partly and lawlessly introduced this demagogue and global tyrant tRump on the global scene and in violation of U.S. Constitutional law.
    What ? Did you loose your welfare ?

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