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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    He is under investigation. He has intent. He is obstructing Justice.

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    Good point on intent.

    Except it would be *criminal* intent if Brennan is trying to hinder the investigation to protect himself or others from prosecution.

    In contrast, Trump knew he was innocent of the collusion charge so it would be impossible for him to have criminal intent in any obstruction case. In fact, if Trump so much as *suspected* the investigation was corrupt he had legitimate grounds to try and obstruct it.

    In fact, it could be argued he had a responsibility to do so in order to protect the office of the presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I need to cite the code for obstructing an investigation lol?

    Brennan may not have any formal authority over people but as a former head of the CIA his voice carries some weight. He’s at least at risk to being charged with one ‘count’ of obstruction.
    I don't think so. First, somebody has to actually obstruct justice. He has no authority to order anybody to do anything. Because some worker respects his opinion does not give them the power to withhold documents. Brennan's intent does not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    He should be locked up.

    “Should be”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    He is under investigation. He has intent. He is obstructing Justice.

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    What is he being investigated for? Anything REMOTELY related to the Barr release of classified information? What witnesses are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Good point on intent.

    Except it would be *criminal* intent if Brennan is trying to hinder the investigation to protect himself or others from prosecution.

    In contrast, Trump knew he was innocent of the collusion charge so it would be impossible for him to have criminal intent in any obstruction case. In fact, if Trump so much as *suspected* the investigation was corrupt he had legitimate grounds to try and obstruct it.

    In fact, it could be argued he had a responsibility to do so in order to protect the office of the presidency.
    10 instances of obstruction in Mueller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I don't think so. First, somebody has to actually obstruct justice. He has no authority to order anybody to do anything. Because some worker respects his opinion does not give them the power to withhold documents. Brennan's intent does not apply.
    Well, I said ‘at risk’ lol.

    And I was using a ‘liberal’ application of law like what gets used against Trump. I’ve heard some lefties claim Trump was guilty obstruction for what he said on Twitter about the Mullet investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    10 instances of obstruction in Mueller.
    You can’t have a criminal intent with no underlying crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Good point on intent.

    Except it would be *criminal* intent if Brennan is trying to hinder the investigation to protect himself or others from prosecution.

    In contrast, Trump knew he was innocent of the collusion charge so it would be impossible for him to have criminal intent in any obstruction case. In fact, if Trump so much as *suspected* the investigation was corrupt he had legitimate grounds to try and obstruct it.

    In fact, it could be argued he had a responsibility to do so in order to protect the office of the presidency.
    This is exactly why Mueller punted on obstruction, he knew he could never win in court. Don't buy the BS line about the DOJ memo which says a sitting president can't be indicted. If Mueller thought he had a case for obstruction, he would've challenged that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I don't think so. First, somebody has to actually obstruct justice. He has no authority to order anybody to do anything. Because some worker respects his opinion does not give them the power to withhold documents. Brennan's intent does not apply.
    Is witness tampering not a form of obstruction of justice? I believe it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    What is he being investigated for? Anything REMOTELY related to the Barr release of classified information? What witnesses are you referring to?
    Could you possibly be more uninformed? No, no you couldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    This is exactly why Mueller punted on obstruction, he knew he could never win in court. Don't buy the BS line about the DOJ memo which says a sitting president can't be indicted. If Mueller thought he had a case for obstruction, he would've challenged that.
    Turley addressed the weakness of the DOJ memo. I don’t have the article saved or I would post it.

    There was a reason besides the DOJ regulation-excuse that Mullet didn’t indict Trump. I agree that the best explanation is he knew the charge was weak and would never stand up in court.

    Much less, the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Could you possibly be more uninformed? No, no you couldn't.
    Answer the question, bitch.

    1)What is Brennan being investigated for?
    2) Is it even REMOTELY related to the Barr release of classified information?
    3) Which witnesses is he tampering with?
    4) What power over those “witnesses” does he have, other than his opinion, does he have to constitute tampering?

    I’ll wait for your desperate, delusional, rambling response.

    Such fucking desperate losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Turley addressed the weakness of the DOJ memo. I don’t have the article saved or I would post it.

    There was a reason besides the DOJ regulation-excuse that Mullet didn’t indict Trump. I agree that the best explanation is he knew the charge was weak and never stand up in court.

    Much less, the Senate.
    Especially since the Mueller investigation was never obstructed. Mueller was never fired, and received unprecedented cooperation from Trump. Furthermore, how do you obstruct a bogus investigation? In all reality, Trump had every right to put a stop to this fraud of an investigation, he had every right to fire Mueller. I was one of those saying he should've fired Mueller. In hindsight, I was wrong. By not firing Mueller, he has all the political capital he'll ever need to counter investigate. Now that he has released the Kraken (declassified), the Dems are quivering in their wadin' boots. Looks like Nadler literally stroked out the other day, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Especially since the Mueller investigation was never obstructed. Mueller was never fired, and received unprecedented cooperation from Trump. Furthermore, how do you obstruct a bogus investigation? In all reality, Trump had every right to put a stop to this fraud of an investigation, he had every right to fire Mueller. I was one of those saying he should've fired Mueller. In hindsight, I was wrong. By not firing Mueller, he has all the political capital he'll ever need to counter investigate. Now that he has released the Kraken (declassified), the Dems are quivering in their wadin' boots. Looks like Nadler literally stroked out the other day, lol.
    Pretty much.

    They were begging Trump to fire Mullet. In fact, I think some of Mullet’s more ‘gratuitous’ moves [the over the top raids on Manafort and Stone] were done for that exact reason. And I don’t doubt that Trump was prevented from taking the bait by some of his advisors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    What is he being investigated for? Anything REMOTELY related to the Barr release of classified information? What witnesses are you referring to?
    You will find out soon enough

    Be patient.

    Wait for Barr

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