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    Timing is everything, and timing explains President Trump’s decision to finally pull the ripcord and open the Obama administration’s bag of dirty tricks.

    With his memo giving Attorney General Bill Barr the authority to declassify any documents related to the investigation of the 2016 campaign, Trump made good on a longstanding promise. Most important, his decision signaled that the War of Washington is entering a crucial new phase.

    The president is going nuclear.

    Democrats who thought control of the House gave them control of the agenda now will face stiff competition. Their expressions of outrage will seem tired next to the sensational revelations about the actions of Jim Comey, John Brennan and *others.

    Based on what we already know, it is highly likely those revelations will prove the White House, FBI and CIA engineered the greatest scandal in American political history by unjustified spying on Trump and by trying to tip the election to Hillary Clinton.

    Predictably, Dems are furious at Trump’s decision, with many on the left launching personal attacks on Barr. He’s not getting Brett Kavan-augh-level smears yet, but give them time.

    Among the usual suspects, Rep. Adam Schiff called the president’s order “un-American.” That’s mighty rich, given his claims for two years that he had evidence Trump colluded with Russia. Odd that he never gave it to special counsel Robert Mueller.

    But while Schiff, Rep. Jerry Nadler and others overplayed their hands and became CNN stars by tormenting Trump, they are not to blame for his decision. The distinction belongs to Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    After months of dancing between her party’s impeachment caucus and those who see it as political disaster, Pelosi sided with the impeachers by accusing Trump of a “coverup.”


    That was Wednesday morning, and it was the final straw. Hours later, Trump walked out of their meeting on infrastructure, told the media that “I don’t do coverups” and put in motion the declassification order released Thursday.


    The order means Trump is giving up on getting major legislation passed before the 2020 election. In his mind, making the 2016 documents public was always a declaration of war that would end any hope of bipartisanship.

    Recall that he had often promised to release them, but never did. He said he was waiting for the right time, calling the documents the ultimate counterpunch.

    Last November, in an Oval Office interview, he told me and two Post colleagues that if the Dems, who had just won the House in the midterms, engaged in “presidential harassment,” that would be the right time.

    “I will hit them so hard, they’ve never seen a hit like that,” the president warned. “If they want to play tough, I will do it. And they will see how devastating those pages are.”
    Still, Trump’s patience has been a mystery. I along with many others *argued that release of internal records and communications about the Russia probe would shock the nation and be faithful to his promise of historic transparency.

    Once he came close but pulled back, reportedly at the urging of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who was overseeing the Mueller probe. That was odd because Rosenstein had a clear conflict of interest, having signed the final application to spy on Carter Page. That is just one of the documents that will be released because the application likely misled judges on the FISA Court.

    Trump also hoped that, once the Mueller probe ended, Dems would be a more normal opposition party and he could make deals with them on critical issues.

    Besides, he had a fondness for Pelosi, as demonstrated by his offer to help secure GOP votes to make her speaker if Dems were too divided. “You know, she loves this country. And she’s a very smart woman. She’s done a very good job,” he said the day after the midterms.

    She, too, took the high road then.

    “We have all had enough of division,” she said. “Americans want peace. They want results.”

    Yet even after Mueller finished and found no collusion or clear evidence of obstruction, Trump sat on the documents, hoping Dems would accept the outcome and negotiate over *infrastructure.
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    That, after all, was something they always said they wanted to do, and Pelosi and Dem Senate leader Chuck Schumer appeared to be almost giddy after an early May meeting at the White House.

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    But Pelosi’s “coverup” remark changed everything because of the inevitable consequences it carries. If she really believes the president is committing a crime, she has left *herself no logical course except *impeachment.

    So Trump delivered his counterpunch, along with a volley of insults.

    Democrats are not alone in being furious about the coming release of the documents. Their media handmaidens suddenly are all for keeping the secrets secret.

    The New York Times reached a new low by declaring in a news story that Trump is using “the intelligence to pursue his political enemies.”

    The article, by David Sanger, never entertains the possibility that Barack Obama weaponized the FBI and CIA to block Trump from becoming president, or that Comey, Brennan and others aimed to depose him.

    To consider that possibility would be to practice journalism. The Times doesn’t do that anymore.

    Instead, the Gray Lady has become the errand boy for the deep state. Reporters grant their law-enforcement and intelligence sources anonymity, despite that some were surely part of the conspiracy and committed crimes.

    If the Times had its way, Comey would still be running the FBI and Peter Strzok and Lisa Page would be unknown to the public.

    Which raises a possibility: the documents could reveal which members of the media the conspirators trusted for leaks and protection.
    Count that as a bonus of transparency.
    https://nypost.com/2019/05/26/donald...s-cry-coverup/

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    Poor Dunks.
    One sentence from Desh destroyed him.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    obviously, with declassification there can be no more pretending that Trump is covering anything up.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    wow then why didnt trump declassify everything in the Mueller report?
    You can stop now, he already bled out.
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    Remember when Bush created the INTEL he wanted to see so he could "shock and Awe" the world in Iraq?


    guess what trumps DOJ is trying to do




    BTW the Bush admin tried to stack the DOJ and got caught and punished for it

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismis...ys_controversy



    Inspector General Report and Special Prosecutor[edit]
    On September 29, 2008 the Justice Department's Inspector General (IG) released a report on the matter that found most of the firings were politically motivated and improper. The next day Attorney General Michael Mukasey appointed a special prosecutor Nora Dannehy to decide whether criminal charges should be brought against Gonzales and other officials involved in the firings.[29] The IG's report contained "substantial evidence" that party politics drove a number of the firings, and IG Glenn Fine said in a statement that Gonzales had "abdicated his responsibility to safeguard the integrity and independence of the department."[46] The report itself stopped short of resolving questions about higher White House involvement in the matter, because of what it said were the refusal to cooperate of a number of key players, among them Karl Rove, Senator Pete Domenici and Harriet Miers and because the White House refused to hand over its documents related to the firings.[47]

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    its the kind thing to think they are Russian bot holes

    if they are real people they are fucking idiots
    Use to think he was Real but the shoe fits.
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    some of these right wing scum are real people

    they are just real dishonest people



    very few of the right here are just regular posters



    they see too much truth here to stay with the evil idiot nonsense the right spews non stop


    the GRU (what used to be the KGB in putins day) has been working this plan since Putin has been in power



    remember legion troll?



    he posted all liberal for years and then near the election hated all the democratic party members running



    I outed him before the election and sure enough he followed that program



    that is why Im soooo hard on some left appearing posters



    I see a step towards the plan and I jump on it



    I wont let any of these scum get away with the tactic

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    obviously, with declassification there can be no more pretending that Trump is covering anything up.......
    Indeed.

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    They´re going to bother him unless he gives them those documents and when he shuts them up they would get on a search for some new thing to bother him with. Whether he is right or not doesn´t matter to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    You can stop now, he already bled out.
    Without seeing the OP, I can tell it's from a conspiracy site
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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