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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Lincoln was respinsible for 600k deaths. Loss of 40% of GDP and all for political purposes.
    Obama is more crooked but cou ld not touch the death count.
    And yet OL' LINCOLN's carnage still doesn't, even in 21st century standards to an INVASION of a foreign country the size of 2 or 3 SOUTHERN STATES where 2 Republicans were responsible for killing over a million people. Not to 'hold a country together so it did not perish' but because they wanted the OIL.

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    McCONNELL REFUSED to sign the letter.

    The rest is history!

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    No way President Trump should be compared to a prick like Lincoln. God bless John Wilkes Booth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    You can add another million deaths, when you count all the freed black slaves that died from starvation and diseases after the war. It always seem ironic to me that freedom for so many resulted in their horrific deaths, no wonder it's not talked about that much.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tion-civil-war
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    No way President Trump should be compared to a prick like Lincoln. God bless John Wilkes Booth
    True, but fuck Trump too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    No way President Trump should be compared to a prick like Lincoln. God bless John Wilkes Booth
    See, you're not a Republican or a conservative. You hate America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    See, you're not a Republican or a conservative. You hate America.
    No I think Lincoln was one of our worst Presidents.

    It isn’t my fault you have been fed leftist propaganda about him

    Just become a democrat already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Sorry, you're properly on ignore so the only part of your droolings I can read is your thread titles.

    I thought you guys hated Voight for his role in Midnight Cowboy decades ago. He's okay now as long as he says what you want him to say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    One Twitter comment, “Next he’ll give out parenting tips”
    Not the greatest president, second to G. Washington, Super Moderator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    No I think Lincoln was one of our worst Presidents.

    It isn’t my fault you have been fed leftist propaganda about him

    Just become a democrat already.
    Why do you think that? Because he kept our country united?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Why do you think that? Because he kept our country united?
    Because he violated the US Constitution. Because he committed acts of war against the States. Because he ripped the United States apart. Slavery would have ended on its own just like it did in many other countries. What Lincoln did was ensure that the wounds would never heal.

    It is because of Lincoln that we have the racial tensions we have today. The good thing is he was offed before he could do more damage.

    Look I get it. Lincoln is lionized due to left wing propaganda, but he was a horrible President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Because he violated the US Constitution. Because he committed acts of war against the States. Because he ripped the United States apart. Slavery would have ended on its own just like it did in many other countries. What Lincoln did was ensure that the wounds would never heal.

    It is because of Lincoln that we have the racial tensions we have today. The good thing is he was offed before he could do more damage.

    Look I get it. Lincoln is lionized due to left wing propaganda, but he was a horrible President.
    We most often agree, but not this time. I believe the southern states who wished to secede fired the first round and started the civil war. Lincoln only wanted to keep the country united.
    What did he do to ensure that the wounds would never heal? Why is he responsible for today's racial tensions (don't you think liberals are responsible for keeping the racial fires burning)?
    I don't think any American president should have been "offed." Why do you? The assassination of ANY American president shines dimly on our country, don't you think?
    Lincoln is hated by the left, they speak disrespectful of him quite often because he was a republican, if for no other reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    We most often agree, but not this time.

    I believe the southern states who wished to secede fired the first round and started the civil war. Lincoln only wanted to keep the country united.

    Joining the union was voluntary. As such it stands to reason that leaving the Union should have been part of the agreement. To think otherwise would be to say that the federal government could force a state to join. That is totalitarianism. Whether you think it was a good thing for the country to stay "united" is irrelevant if the means to do it were unconstitutional. He suspended the Writ of Habeas Corpus and placed the Declaration of Independence above the US Constitution.

    What did he do to ensure that the wounds would never heal?

    Because he did not allow slavery to end on its own and started a war to end it, he created the breeding ground for the democrat party to create the KKK and Jim Crow laws. The resentment of the South outlasted his freeing of the slaves. Had slavery been allowed to end on its own, which it would have we wouldn't have the racial tensions today

    Why is he responsible for today's racial tensions (don't you think liberals are responsible for keeping the racial fires burning)?

    Had Lincoln not provided the fertile ground for southern democrats to be bitter about, leftists wouldn't be able to stoke those tensions to the degree that they do

    I don't think any American president should have been "offed." Why do you?

    Let me rephrase. I don't think any President should be assassinated, but I am not sad that Lincoln was before he could do more damage to the country

    The assassination of ANY American president shines dimly on our country, don't you think?

    Of course it isn't a good thing, but when the government violates the trust of the people you can't blame others for standing up.

    Lincoln is hated by the left, they speak disrespectful of him quite often because he was a republican, if for no other reason.

    Lincoln is the one President the left doesn't disparage

    I know that I am an outlier believing that Lincoln was one of the worst Presidents we ever had. I didn't always think that. I too was duped by the left wing propaganda fed in public schools. But, when I did my own research on him I realized just how horrible he was.
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    Lincoln authorized and sanctioned Sherman’s March to the Sea. Civilians were murdered and their homes and crops burned.

    This was a crime against humanity. An atrocity...an abomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Don’t pin 600K deaths on Lincoln, dumbfuck.
    So who do we pin it on? Why not let the south secede? The original 13 colonies seceded from england. During 1950-1980 most of africa seceded from the european powers that controlled them. Around 1990 the 15 states of the USSR seceded and became independent. Secession is common and honorable. But lincoln said no secession and killed 600,000 soldiers.

    BTW - nobody calls me dumbfuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    No way President Trump should be compared to a prick like Lincoln. God bless John Wilkes Booth
    Booth was right about one thing. Lincoln was a tyrant. L threw thousands of northerners into prison without charging them with a crime!!! He simply locked them up for opposing the war. And he shut down hundreds of northern newspapers for opposing the war that he started.
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