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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    You know nothing of me you patronizing piece of shit.
    Well, I knew full well that you were going to respond to me by going "off the rails" once again (or is it still??).

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    If you make 1000 times more posts than you have, like I did,
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    then I might notice you,
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    but I doubt it,
    As do I... Your anger issues seem to cloud you from noticing a lot of things, including your asserted position that cars no longer use gasoline.

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    because you will always be a conservatard shitstain,
    How long have you been bigoted towards conservatives? Why do you condone such bigotry?

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    and the pleasure of my real life is that no, I don't parlay with conservatard shitstains in real life.
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    I might laugh at you,
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    or spit at you or if you were real persistent, beat the living shit out of you.
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    but the best part of ignoring idiot fucktards is just not seeing your spuge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Untrue; because a country that has tariffs on it's goods can still freely trade them, seeing as how it's not an ban or embargo.
    A tariff is a tax on consumers, The added cost is passed on to those who buy shit, that would be us buying from China and Mexico. If the tariff is big enough, then trading on that commodity slows down. Of course, the country Trump imposes a tariff on, reciprocates choosing industries that will get harmed quickly. That is why soybean and other farmers are getting killed.
    What is the gain? Almost every economist on the planet is against tariffs calling them a dangerous and bad policy. Trump is the exemplar of bad and dangerous policy.
    The Repubs have called themselves free traders proudly for generations. Now they are the tariff party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    A tariff is a tax on consumers, The added cost is passed on to those who buy shit, that would be us buying from China and Mexico. If the tariff is big enough, then trading on that commodity slows down. Of course, the country Trump imposes a tariff on, reciprocates choosing industries that will get harmed quickly. That is why soybean and other farmers are getting killed.
    What is the gain? Almost every economist on the planet is against tariffs calling them a dangerous and bad policy. Trump is the exemplar of bad and dangerous policy.
    The Repubs have called themselves free traders proudly for generations. Now they are the tariff party.
    Your word-salad didn't refute my post where I showed that the goods can still be freely traded, which is what you were trying to suggest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, tariffs are taxes levied on imports.
    Who pays it? I know you do not know. It is paid for in higher prices by the consumers of the country that receives those products,. That means Americans pay higher prices. That is why cars are up a grand and Chinese products are costlier. If people still buy at the new prices, China is unaffected by it. However, in all cases, the consumer pays more for products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're brainwashed by globalist propaganda. its simply false that all tariffs must be folded into price. tariffs are a reasonable tool to allow a country to sculpt its corporate environment into alignment with other national goals and values.
    Tariffs always wind up in price, one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Who pays it?
    Importers of products from that country.
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    I know you do not know.
    I do know. Importers of products from that country.
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    It is paid for in higher prices by the consumers of the country that receives those products,
    Not necessarily. You can always import from somewhere else, simply absorb the extra cost, or just build the product domestically.
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    That means Americans pay higher prices.
    America isn't a country. It is a region covering over two continents.
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    That is why cars are up a grand
    No, that's the falling dollar.
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    and Chinese products are costlier.
    Some are, some aren't.
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    If people still buy at the new prices, China is unaffected by it.
    They can always from from somewhere else, and that's usually what happens.
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    However, in all cases, the consumer pays more for products.
    Not necessarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Tariffs always wind up in price, one way or another.

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    Not necessarily. People can import from a different nation, or even build the product domestically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Your word-salad didn't refute my post where I showed that the goods can still be freely traded, which is what you were trying to suggest.

    The entire concept of tariffs is to not trade freely. It puts an artificial price rise on specific imports. That inhibits its trade and if severe enough ends it.It is the antithesis of free rtade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The entire concept of tariffs is to not trade freely. It puts an artificial price rise on specific imports. That inhibits its trade and if severe enough ends it.It is the antithesis of free rtade.
    And yet, no matter how many times you falsely presented this; they are still FREE to engage in trade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Tariffs always wind up in price, one way or another.

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    wrong. and you said that already. and even if it is in the price, it's still performing it's function as a market attenuator. some thing are more important than cheap goods, wouldn't you agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The entire concept of tariffs is to not trade freely. It puts an artificial price rise on specific imports. That inhibits its trade and if severe enough ends it.It is the antithesis of free rtade.
    yes. this is to sculpt the society in specific ways, by prioritizing other national values above cheap goods, like people having jobs. no matter how cheap things get, it's no good for you if your income is zero because all your jobs went away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    wrong. and you said that already. and even if it is in the price, it's still performing it's function as a market attenuator. some thing are more important than cheap goods, wouldn't you agree?
    Wouldn't higher prices on imported goods make American products more appealing? That would benefit American jobs and the economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Wouldn't higher prices on imported goods make American products more appealing? That would benefit American jobs and the economy.
    hellooooo. yes. certainly. I think you rediscovered tariffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    hellooooo. yes. certainly. I think you rediscovered tariffs.
    I've always thought we should level the playing field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I've always thought we should level the playing field.
    corporatist globalists have such a stranglehold on education that a whole generation thinks tariffs are hardly even a thing.
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