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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    No it is not the same money. If I don’t have any kids but they are taking money out of my paycheck to pay for day care, how is that the same.
    If you don't have kids you still pay for public school education for the children of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    If you don't have kids you still pay for public school education for the children of others.

    Obviously you don’t know there is a difference between secondary education and day care.
    I never said anything about not paying school taxes. I was talking about day care.
    My recommendation would be for you to go back to secondary school to learn reading comprehension.

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    Fortunately they stop forcing us to pay for public education when we turn 65 (at least it's that way in FL & GA).
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    End Corporate Capitalism from ruling America!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    You are an idiot.
    No it is not the same money. If I don’t have any kids but they are taking money out of my paycheck to pay for day care, how is that the same.

    I’m going to work hard to pay for your healthcare and child care?
    I have no problem if you want to send me your paycheck to pay for my kids day care. I forgot you don’t work.
    In this country hard work is rewarded. Why should I be punished because I’m not as lazy as you.

    In this country the people who can afford child care pays for their own child care. Taxpayers subsidize those that can’t afford it.
    In this country the people who work can opt to pay for their own healthcare through their employer. The people who don’t work are entitled to taxpayer dollars through Medicaid.
    I don’t want to pay for someone’s child care, healthcare or higher education who can already afford it.

    You obviously hate the US.

    Why are you here. Go move to Denmark, Finland or Sweden as you can pay twice as much in taxes to pay for everyone else.

    You need a fuckin education.
    You basically have raised the white flag of surrender when you start hollering that I 'hate America!"


    I had to pay for your Disastrous Invasion of Iraq, so you have zero room to complain about tax fairness.

    In a representative democracy like Norway or the United States, people makes choices and their duly elected representatives vote on how to spend tax revenue.

    If this country ever chooses to have single payer health care, and subsidized day care you are just going to have to suck it up and keep a stiff upper lip. I am am still paying for your Iraq War and you do not see my crying like a little girl about it.

    Wrapping up: I do appreciate that we have moved the debate away from the preposterous and dishonest teabagger claim that "Democrats want us to be like Cuba!" - and we are now honestly highlighting what American liberals and democratic socialists actually want, aka a socio-economic system similar to, or on a par with, the Scandinavian model. Which happens to also be arguably the most admired socioeconomic model in human history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASON View Post
    End Corporate Capitalism from ruling America!
    Marxists are such ignorant clowns. How is it possible to be so ignorant of historic fact?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Those four in ten should move to Venezuela...bring food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You basically have raised the white flag of surrender when you start hollering that I 'hate America!"
    Isn't that what you and the liberal left are doing now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I had to pay for your Disastrous Invasion of Iraq, so you have zero room to complain about tax fairness.
    I doubt you pay much of anything snowflake. But the Iraq war was a Bi-Partisan endeavor and a UN effort.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    In a representative democracy like Norway or the United States, people makes choices and their duly elected representatives vote on how to spend tax revenue.
    Yet here you and millions of other low IQ liberals are, claiming that elections don't matter or have consequences. Ironic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    If this country ever chooses to have single payer health care, and subsidized day care you are just going to have to suck it up and keep a stiff upper lip. I am am still paying for your Iraq War and you do not see my crying like a little girl about it.
    I doubt you are paying for anything. Welfare is not a Federal Constitutional duty. Defending our interests and our borders are. If you had been properly educated, you could comprehend those FACTS.

    If you don't think the Government gets enough revenue, pony up and write a BIGGER check.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Wrapping up: I do appreciate that we have moved the debate away from the preposterous and dishonest teabagger claim that "Democrats want us to be like Cuba!" - and we are now honestly highlight was American liberals and democratic socialists want, aka a socio-economic system similar to the Scandinavian model. Which happens to also be arguably the most admired socioeconomic model in human history.
    There is nothing dishonest about it. The Democratic agenda would lead to a Fascistic third world shit hole similar to what we see in China, Cuba and Venezuela. Why do you stupidly believe it would not?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Those four in ten should move to Venezuela...bring food.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Sadly, yes. A country can't have both a welfare state and mass immigration, but Europe has made the idiotic decision to attempt both.
    The good news is many right-wing Nationalist parties in Europe are still pretty left-wing and are making the argument that they need to close the borders so that they can maintain their welfare state.
    Yes exactly, you can't have both. That's a a lesson that the Scandinavian countries and Germany is learning the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    Obviously you don’t know there is a difference between secondary education and day care.
    I never said anything about not paying school taxes. I was talking about day care.
    My recommendation would be for you to go back to secondary school to learn reading comprehension.
    My recommendation is for you to quit being so snarky. Be nice.

    People can have a policy difference on whether to fund day care, but the principle is the same. So is elementary education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    My recommendation is for you to quit being so snarky. Be nice.

    People can have a policy difference on whether to fund day care, but the principle is the same. So is elementary education.
    Be nice. Are you kidding. I hope you tell that to your liberal buddies on this forum.
    No the principle is not the same. You are talking about a separate issue.
    People who can afford day care do not see government subsidies. You can deduct child care expense on your taxes of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    We're getting there.
    Question, how much more of your income are you sending in each year, above what is required?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    More than 4 in 10 respondents in a new Gallup poll now say that socialism would be a good thing for the U.S.

    The survey results, released Monday, found that 43 percent of respondents said “some form of socialism” would be a good thing for the nation as a whole.

    A little more than half — 51 percent — said that socialism would be a bad thing for the country. And 6 percent said they did not have an opinion.

    The results show an increase of 15 points in the number of respondents who said socialism would be a good thing compared to a 1942 Roper/Fortune survey, in which just 25 percent of respondents said socialism would be a good thing and 40 percent said it would be bad.

    The results contrast with a Monmouth University poll from earlier this month which found that 57 percent of voters believe that socialism is incompatible with American values.

    The Gallup poll, which collected data between April 17-30, comes as more high-profile politicians label themselves socialist. Most notably, self-avowed democratic socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has continued to poll in the top tier of the pool of 2020 Democratic candidates for president, though most of his competitors have distanced themselves from the label.

    As the 2020 battle gets underway, Republicans have widely targeted Democrats for allegedly “embracing” socialism.

    Gallup also found that Americans are more likely to favor free market over government control on a number of issues, including technological innovation, wealth distribution, the economy, wages, higher education and health care. Respondents favored government control in just two categories: environmental protection and consumers’ online privacy protection.

    Respondents were split on their description of the U.S. economy, with 40 percent saying it leans more toward government control, 34 percent saying it leans toward free market control and 25 percent describing it as an equal mix of the two.

    The poll of 1,024 adults has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...od-for-us-poll
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    Be nice. Are you kidding. I hope you tell that to your liberal buddies on this forum.
    No the principle is not the same. You are talking about a separate issue.
    People who can afford day care do not see government subsidies. You can deduct child care expense on your taxes of course.
    What did my post say to make you think I have liberal buddies. Maybe you need some of that reading comprehension.

    Why are tax subsidies ok for elementary and secondary education but not child care? Is it because one is a means tested program? What if a school district or state provided for pre-kindergarten for all students (I think that is primarily child care)--is that the same?

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