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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    how is it not true ?


    are you denying all those court cases are not part of American history?
    One of the Best signs ever:
    If you want to thank a soldier properly, be the kind of American worth fighting for....
    How is that not true?...
    Have a lovely morning/afternoon...Try to be one of those worth fighting for....

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    DNC v. RNC Consent Decree
    November 5, 2016






    In 1982, after caging in predominantly African-American and Latino neighborhoods, the Republican National Committee and New Jersey Republican State Committee entered into a consent decree with their Democratic party counterparts. Under that decree and its 1987 successor, the Republican party organizations agreed to allow a federal court to review proposed “ballot security” programs, including any proposed voter caging.
    The consent decree has been invoked several times, by the parties to the decree and by others. In late 2008, the Democratic National Committee and Obama for America sought to enforce the consent decree, claiming that the RNC had not submitted alleged ballot security operations for review. After the election, the RNC asked the federal court to vacate or substantially modify the decree. The court denied the RNC's motion to vacate the consent decree and ordered the decree remain in effect until December 2017. The RNC then appealed to the Third Circuit, which unanimously rejected the appeal and affirmed the District Court's decision. A subsequent petition for rehearing en banc by the full Third Circuit, and a certiorari petition to U.S. Supreme Court, were denied.
    On October 26, 2016, the DNC filed a motion asking that the court find the RNC had violated the decree. On November 5, after abbreviated discovery, the district court denied the DNC’s request, ruling that the DNC had not provided sufficient evidence of coordination between the Trump campaign and the RNC on ballot-security operations, but will allow the DNC to offer further evidence after the election.
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    Related Court Documents
    2016
    Order Denying Request to Extend Decree (11/05/2016)
    RNC's Memorandum in Opposition to Order to Show Cause (10/31/2016)
    DNC's Memorandum in Support of Order to Show Cause (10/26/2016)
    2012
    Petition for Rehearing (03/22/2012)
    Third Circuit Opinion (03/08/2012)
    2009
    Debevoise Order (12/01/2009)
    Debevoise Opinion (12/01/2009)
    RNC Post-Hearing Brief (06/26/2009)
    DNC Post-Hearing Brief (06/26/2009)
    RNC Reply Brief (02/19/2009)
    DNC Brief Opposing Motion to Vacate (01/19/2009)
    RNC Brief in Support of Motion (11/03/2008)
    2008 (several states)
    DNC Brief (11/03/2008)
    DNC Brief Atty. Certification of Exhibits (11/03/2008)
    OFA Intervention Memo (11/03/2008)
    Minute Entry (11/03/2008)
    2004 (Ohio)
    Malone Dismissal (02/03/2005)
    Malone en banc Decision (11/09/2004)
    Malone Appellate Decision (11/01/2004)
    Malone Order (11/01/2004)
    Malone Intervenor PI brief (11/01/2004)
    Malone Intervenor Complaint (10/31/2004)
    Malone Memo in Support of Intervention (10/28/2004)
    Malone Motion to Intervene (10/28/2004)
    2004 (South Dakota)
    Daschle Temporary Restraining Order (11/02/2004)
    Daschle SD Complaint (11/01/2004)
    2002 (New Jersey)
    Order (10/31/2002)
    1990 (North Carolina)
    Order (11/05/1990)
    1987 (several states)
    Consent Decree (07/27/1987)
    Original 1981 case (New Jersey)
    Consent Decree (11/01/1982)
    Complaint (02/11/1982)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    One of the Best signs ever:
    If you want to thank a soldier properly, be the kind of American worth fighting for....
    How is that not true?...
    Have a lovely morning/afternoon...Try to be one of those worth fighting for....
    I fight against people who want to destroy the right to vote in this democracy


    you protect the ones who do those crimes


    its just fact

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    Reported Instances of Voter Caging
    The following is a compilation of reported instances of voter caging or attempted voter caging.
    Justin Levitt
    June 29, 2007






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    Voter caging is the practice of sending mail to addresses on the voter rolls, compiling a list of the mail that is returned undelivered, and using that list to try to purge or challenge voters registrations on the grounds that the voters on the list do not legally reside at their registered addresses. The following is a compilation of reported instances of voter caging or attempted voter caging.As we become aware of further examples, we will add summaries to the compilation below.
    1958
    In 1958, nonforwardable campaign literature was sent to 18,000 registered Democrats.[1] The mail that was returned undelivered was used to generate a list of voters to be challenged at the polls.[2] Contemporary reports on the challenge program noted that challengers using these lists were active in certain precincts but the precincts mentioned were those with substantial minority populations.[3]
    1960
    In 1960, postcards were sent to 349 registered Republicans in one particular Arizona district.[4] These postcards specifically warned of punishment if the voters had moved but voted in the precinct in which they were formerly registered.[5] A list of the postcards returned undelivered was compiled, presumably for challenges at the polls.[6]
    1964
    In 1964, a partisan campaign named Operation Eagle Eye sent 1.8 million pieces of mail to voters in what the campaign called many of the more suspect precincts in 15 key cities, such as Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, Kansas City and St. Louis all cities with substantial minority populations.[7] The undeliverable mail was returned to a local address, and an anomaly in most voter caging programs local campaign workers were instructed to make personal checks at the suspect addresses.[8] Program officials stated that at least 2,963 names in Chicago alone were purged from the rolls before the election based on the caging lists generated by this campaign.
    Volunteers were also instructed to challenge voters on the caging list at the polls on Election Day.[9] The national director of Operation Eagle Eye claimed that program participants expected to successfully challenge or discourage from voting 1,250,000 persons.[10] At least some of these challenges may have been racially motivated: in Washington, D.C., for example, one coordinator said that his challengers would keep an eye out for people who look like they dont belong in the community or are not the kind of people who would register and vote.[11]
    1981
    In 1981, the Republican National Committee sent mailings to New Jersey voters in predominantly African-American and Latino neighborhoods.[12] The 45,000 letters that could not be delivered were used to compile a challenge list to remove those voters from the rolls.[13] As a result of a lawsuit filed against the effort, the Republican National Committee and New Jersey Republican State Committee entered into a consent decree with their Democratic party counterparts, prohibiting most racially targeted voter caging. In the decree, they agreed, in relevant part, to:
    refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting . . . .[14]
    1986
    In 1986, the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners sent mailings to all registered voters in Chicago.[15] 116,541 pieces could not be delivered.[16] The corresponding voters were to be checked in a door-to-door canvass, and if their registration status remained in doubt, they were to be purged from the rolls.[17] The extent to which voters were actually purged from the rolls is not clear from published reports.
    Later in the year, the Republican National Committee hired a vendor known as Ballot Integrity Group Inc. to carry out a voter caging effort in Louisiana, Indiana, and Missouri; further efforts were apparently planned for Michigan.[18] In Louisiana, the program entailed sending nonforwardable envelopes with emergency contact numbers to 350,000 voters registered in heavily Democratic districts.[19] Most districts that fit the profile were African-American neighborhoods, and in at least one instance, the office producing the data for the mailing list was asked specifically for the listings of African-American voters.[20]
    An internal memorandum to the RNCs southern regional political director recognized the effect of the caging program on the upcoming Senate race in Louisiana:
    I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls. . . . If it’s a close race, which I’m assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably.[21]
    Ultimately, 30,000 letters were returned undelivered in Louisiana; as predicted, most of the returned letters were addressed to African-Americans.[22] These letters were turned over to election officials with a request to purge the voters from the rolls; the letters were also compiled onto a list for investigation by law enforcement and for challenge at the polls.[23]
    A Louisiana state court judge enjoined the program, finding that the clear intent was to remove blacks from the voting rolls.[24] The national party organizations also returned to federal court in New Jersey, in litigation filed under the 1981 consent decree described above. In the short term, the RNC stipulated that it would not compile voter challenge lists or challenge voters on the basis of direct mail returned as undelivered.[25] Ultimately, the case again settled, with a modification of the 1981 decree prohibiting the RNC from undertaking any ballot security program without the courts consent.[26]
    1990
    In 1990, the Republican Party of North Carolina and Senator Jesse Helms re-election campaign committee mailed postcards to 125,000 voters; 81,000 cards were mailed to registered Democrats in precincts that were 94% African-American, and 44,000 cards were mailed to African-American voters exclusively.[27] Undelivered cards were then used to create a list of voters to be challenged.[28] The U.S. Department of Justice filed suit, again ending in a consent decree. This agreement prohibited the state party from targeting voters based on their racial minority status, and required it to obtain prior court approval for its anti-fraud activities.[29]
    2004
    Evidence of voter caging or of preparation for voter caging surfaced in at least five states in 2004. In Ohio, letters were sent to all voters who registered between January 1 and August 31 of 2004; the 35,427 letters that were returned undelivered were used to create a challenge list.[30] The list included names from mostly urban and minority areas, including 17,717 challenges in Cuyahoga County.[31] Some challenges were executed before Election Day, and others were withdrawn; due in part to an extended court challenge, almost no voters on the list were ultimately challenged at the polls.[32]
    In Nevada, a businessman looking to take Democrats off the voter rolls challenged 17,000 registered Clark County voters who had been sent mail that was returned undelivered.[33] The countys Registrar of Voters denied all of the challenges.[34]
    In Pennsylvania, letters were sent to 130,000 newly registered Philadelphia voters.[35] Ten thousand letters allegedly could not be delivered, and were used to compile a challenge list.[36] There were no reports that the list was actually used for challenges on Election Day.
    In Florida, letters were sent to newly registered voters in Duval County, and 2,663 voters for whom letters were returned as undeliverable were placed on a controversial list.[37] 1,833 of these voters were attached to disclosed emails labeled caging, and sent by Florida campaign staff to political and research staff at the Republican National Committee; Tim Griffin, the national research director for the RNC, acknowledged receipt.[38] No explanation has been given for why the list was forwarded to RNC headquarters. Later analysis using registration records coded for race showed that the list disproportionately captured minority voters.[39] State campaign spokespersons claimed that the list was not intended to be used for challenging voter eligibility, though they also acknowledged that the names were forwarded to county officials;[40] a Department of Justice attorney sent to Florida in 2004 helped procure an agreement that voters would not be challenged at the polls using any such list.[41]
    Wisconsin saw a variant of voter caging, relying not on undeliverable mail, but on a technological equivalent: attempts to match the addresses on Milwaukees voter rolls to the U.S. Postal Services database of street addresses.[42] (Mail sent to these addresses would presumably have been returned as undeliverable.) 5,619 voters were challenged, with questions raised about approximately 31,500 additional entries.[43] The bipartisan Milwaukee Election Commission found insufficient evidence that the registrations were invalid, and rejected the challenges.[44]

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASON View Post
    My Dad was hunter till he read Watership Down,he never hunted again.
    Some hunting of certain species is a help to that species,like deer here in Ohio.
    But hunting endangered species in places like Africa is just wrong.
    Even with all the justifications, I still couldn't do it.

    I'm appalled at canned hunts, killing endangered species or your regular average deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    A place for old JPP posters and new (Amazon immigrants) posters can come to have discussions on a wide range of topics in a civil manner.
    facts are part of civility


    how can anyone think facts are uncivil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    truth is not an insult in the real world
    No but you're bringing the same incoherent, combative, angry garbage you post all over the board. Now I know why many reasonable people have you as the only person thread banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Even with all the justifications, I still couldn't do it.

    I'm appalled at canned hunts, killing endangered species or your regular average deer.
    I couldn't either!But here in Ohio,deer have no natural hunter animals anymore,the population gets out of control.
    Something has to be done for the deers own good.
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

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    using it to cull overpopulation is fine with me


    I would never partake


    just like I would never partake in a party that cheats in elections

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    No but you're bringing the same incoherent, combative, angry garbage you post all over the board. Now I know why many reasonable people have you as the only person thread banned.
    I just posted the original post


    talking truth to beat down lies is not out of step with this thread


    You are the one insulting me for posting truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    No but you're bringing the same incoherent, combative, angry garbage you post all over the board. Now I know why many reasonable people have you as the only person thread banned.
    you are the one insulting me for merely posting FACTS

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    One of the Best signs ever:
    If you want to thank a soldier properly, be the kind of American worth fighting for
    is supporting a party that cheats voters out of their rights to vote so that they can change the outcome of our elections which destroys democracy supporting what they fight for?



    no its not


    support the troops like you said others should

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