Gun "control"

[Earl]

Clearly the (unelected) President called upon earl to advise the Supreme Court to ignore the words of the constitution (he used, after all, to work for Hitler). If you want to murder more Americans, fine, but what that has to do with outhouses, shithouses, nuthouses or other American folk-customs how is the world to know?

You said that you didn't read my posts. You lied, Nazi.

[gfm7175]

Gun control is how steady one keeps their gun when firing it at their target.

[Oneuli]

Gun control

What exactly does this even mean?

It means regulations designed to make guns less problematic for society.

We aren't allowed Uzis or automatic weapons anymore. So what more control do people want?

Different people want different regulations. Here are some ideas:

(1) Universal background checks.
(2) Universal registration.
(3) Universal requirements for safety/marksmanship/conflict-resolution training.
(4) Limits on ammo type or capacity.
(5) Limits on calibers.
(6) Limits on effective rate of fire.
(7) Requirements for locking up firearms when they're not in use.
(8) Requirements for insurance.
(9) Rules allowing "red flag" cases to lose gun rights temporarily or permanently.
(10) Greater restrictions about where guns are allowed.

I'm not saying I'm in favor of all of those, but I'm just giving examples of the kinds of restrictions that some support.

And this always comes up with school shootings. What more gun control would stop those shootings?

No gun control will ever stop all shootings. Even in countries with a lot of gun control, they still occasionally happen (see Japan, for example). But it's about playing the odds. Any form of gun control that cuts back on the number of households that have firearms will tend to reduce the number of shootings, simply because there will be a lower probability of a potential shooter having a gun at hand when a violent impulse hits. That's why every wealthy nation that has more gun control than us also has fewer shootings. And, aside from simply cutting back on gun availability, you can also disproportionately reduce shootings by way of rules that disproportionately impact the more dangerous forms of ownership (e.g., keeping guns out of the hands of people with violent history).

[Micawber]

There's nothing funny or ambiguous about this, Snowflake:

"right to bear arms."

Let me remind you, Nazi piece of shit redneck loser trash, you quoted the following reasoning

the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected with service in a militia

What part of Conservatard judicial canons of construction give the right to perform a militiaectomy to your sacred text??

Don't answer. You are a moron.

[Micawber]

Take a hike and read this while in your outhouse, Nazi:

"Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected with service in a militia."

We know what they ruled, douchenozzle, but you look the foolish hypocrite each time you quote it.
What else can you ignore in the constitution when it suits your desire to let disaffected emos shoot children in classrooms.

[domer76]

"District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008),[1] is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected with service in a militia, for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia's handgun ban and requirement that lawfully-owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee. It also stated that the right to bear arms is not unlimited and that guns and gun ownership would continue to be regulated. It was the first Supreme Court case to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense."

Wikipedia

Maybe the Nazi from Wales can read this while sitting in his outhouse.

Read this from Heller, dumbfuck.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in thbopinione historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.”

It means, dumbshit, that you can’t have any gun, take it anywhere, and use it for whatever purpose you want.

[RB 60]

It means regulations designed to make guns less problematic for society.



Different people want different regulations. Here are some ideas:

(1) Universal background checks.
(2) Universal registration.
(3) Universal requirements for safety/marksmanship/conflict-resolution training.
(4) Limits on ammo type or capacity.
(5) Limits on calibers.
(6) Limits on effective rate of fire.
(7) Requirements for locking up firearms when they're not in use.
(8) Requirements for insurance.
(9) Rules allowing "red flag" cases to lose gun rights temporarily or permanently.
(10) Greater restrictions about where guns are allowed.

I'm not saying I'm in favor of all of those, but I'm just giving examples of the kinds of restrictions that some support.



No gun control will ever stop all shootings. Even in countries with a lot of gun control, they still occasionally happen (see Japan, for example). But it's about playing the odds. Any form of gun control that cuts back on the number of households that have firearms will tend to reduce the number of shootings, simply because there will be a lower probability of a potential shooter having a gun at hand when a violent impulse hits. That's why every wealthy nation that has more gun control than us also has fewer shootings. And, aside from simply cutting back on gun availability, you can also disproportionately reduce shootings by way of rules that disproportionately impact the more dangerous forms of ownership (e.g., keeping guns out of the hands of people with violent history).

Uh, NO.

[Irish]

Not working well in UK as knife murders outpaced NYC gun deaths.

[Irish]

Its in the constitution. If liberals want to change it, they need to repeal the 2ndA.

[domer76]

Uh, NO.

Um, wipe your spooge off your barrel.

Legitimate suggestions. I’d go further. I want to know every fucking trasaction you made with your popgun, including selling to your crazy Uncle Bob. You take care of the background check.

Federalize all gun crimes, not just a myriad of local regulations. All gun crimes become federal and consistent. Including your unregistered possession. Find you in violation? Off to you with Bubba and your industrial size jar of Anal Lube, punk.

[domer76]

Its in the constitution. If liberals want to change it, they need to repeal the 2ndA.

You don’t have a clue about the origin, the SCOTUS opinions, or the current status of the 2nd.

[domer76]

Not working well in UK as knife murders outpaced NYC gun deaths.

1 month, dumbshit. What a diversionary, lying piece of shit.

[RB 60]

Um, wipe your spooge off your barrel.

Legitimate suggestions. I’d go further. I want to know every fucking trasaction you made with your popgun, including selling to your crazy Uncle Bob. You take care of the background check.

Federalize all gun crimes, not just a myriad of local regulations. All gun crimes become federal and consistent. Including your unregistered possession. Find you in violation? Off to you with Bubba and your industrial size jar of Anal Lube, punk.

My barrel is clean.

Not an option.

You should quit describing your fantasies. dickhead.

[Oneuli]

Uh, NO.

It isn't clear which of my statements, specifically, you were responding to.

[Oneuli]

Not working well in UK as knife murders outpaced NYC gun deaths.

It works very well in the UK -- the murder rate in the UK is much, much lower than in the US (less than one-quarter the rate), and this is driven in significant part by there being extremely low firearm murder rates. They also have much lower accidental death rates by firearms, and lower firearms suicide rates, as well as lower rates of maimings by firearms.