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    A new analysis of recent trends for the Greenland ice sheet reveals that since 2012 there has been an abrupt slowing of melt rates and a trend reversal to cooling and ice growth.

    • In 2018, 26 of Greenland’s 47 largest glaciers were either stable or grew in size.
    • Overall, the 47 glaciers advanced by +4.1 km² during 2018. Of the 6 largest glaciers, 4 grew while 2 retreated.
    • Since 2012, ice loss has been “minor” to “modest” due to the dramatic melting slowdown.
    • Summer average temperatures for 2018 were lower than the 2008-2018 average by more than one standard deviation.
    • Since 2000, the extent of the non-snow-covered areas of Greenland has increased by 500 km² per year.








    https://notrickszone.com/2019/05/20/...r-gaining-ice/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    A new analysis of recent trends for the Greenland ice sheet reveals that since 2012 there has been an abrupt slowing of melt rates and a trend reversal to cooling and ice growth.

    • In 2018, 26 of Greenland’s 47 largest glaciers were either stable or grew in size.
    • Overall, the 47 glaciers advanced by +4.1 km² during 2018. Of the 6 largest glaciers, 4 grew while 2 retreated.
    • Since 2012, ice loss has been “minor” to “modest” due to the dramatic melting slowdown.
    • Summer average temperatures for 2018 were lower than the 2008-2018 average by more than one standard deviation.
    • Since 2000, the extent of the non-snow-covered areas of Greenland has increased by 500 km² per year.

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    https://notrickszone.com/2019/05/20/...r-gaining-ice/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Perhaps you don't know what a question mark means. Is that it?
    I understand perfectly what you were implying. I also understand the idiotic debate technique you are employing where you avoid all discussion of the actual topic.

    Still haven't read the paper yet, have you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    On which page of the paper does that text appear?
    Look at you!! Removing the quote and trying to pretend that my statement was from the paper.

    The paper actually talks about glacier flow on all 8 pages. The fact that Havana Moon thinks that a glacier stops flowing when it recedes shows his ignorance so I took time to explain some basics to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Do you think "poor Richard" actually stumped up for access to the entire paper, Tom?
    Couldn't say, but I am certainly not going to stump up to find out!! The salient point is that In 2018, 26 of Greenland’s 47 largest glaciers were either stable or grew in size. Whether that is solely down to the The Atlantic Multi-decadal Oscillation (AMO) or not only time will tell. Indeed you may have to wait for 20 years or so for a definitive answer. What I do know though is that NASA were caught with their pants down and it was the last thing they were expecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Do you think "poor Richard" actually stumped up for access to the entire paper, Tom?
    Yes, I do have access to the entire paper. I have read the entire paper. How about you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Couldn't say, but I am certainly not going to stump up to find out!!
    So you can't tell us what the errors are in the reporting on your second link. You should never rely on reporters for science when the actual scientific papers are there for you to read.

    The statement is made in the BBC news story - "It is now thickening by 20m a year."

    That makes it look like the entire glacier is thickening by 20m a year but the paper actually states the first 80km of the glacier is thickening by 20m a year and the rest of the glacier is still shrinking by 1-3m a year. Now, I wonder how long the glacier really is? Care to posit a guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Still haven't read the paper yet, have you?
    I don't believe that you have, as a matter of fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Yes, I do have access to the entire paper. I have read the entire paper.
    So you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Couldn't say, but I am certainly not going to stump up to find out!!
    Nor has he, I suspect.

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    I do like these quotes they seem tailor made to describe the absurdity of much in climate science

    The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
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    I do like these quotes they seem tailor made to describe the absurdity of much in climate science

    The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

    Bertrand Russell

    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

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    Indeed, they do seem apropos, Tom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    So you say.
    Here you go. Free access to the published paper - (I did post this once before.)

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...al_ocean_cools
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Here you go. Free access to the published paper - (I did post this once before.)

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...al_ocean_cools
    Is that the entire paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    .

    I do like these quotes they seem tailor made to describe the absurdity of much in climate science

    The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
    -Bertrand Russell
    You must be referring to the claim that there is no evidence of warming. Or the widely held belief that if there is snow in DC or in Lebanon then warming can't be happening. Frankly the quote can be twisted to apply to just about anything.

    So rather than look at the facts of global warming you have decided to do drive by posts and then run away from the actual science. It would suggest your belief to be the one that is foolish.


    The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
    -H.L. Mencken
    I guess we need to build that wall!!!! Because of you know - brown people

    Or in your case - We need Brexit!!! Because of you know - brown people
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