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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The Constitution is it's own meaning. YOU keep trying to change it. You edit every quote you make of it, and post out of context.
    I don't try to change anything. I just describe reality based on how the law is interpreted and enforced. I don't always agree but it is still the law. It serves no purpose in telling the courts, legislative and executive branches they are all interpreting it wrong just because you disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I don't try to change anything.
    Yes you do. Don't lie. You are trying to change the Constitution of the United States.
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    I just describe reality
    Really?? Define it then. Bet you can't. I already know the definition of 'reality'.
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    based on how the law is interpreted and enforced.
    The law does not define 'reality'. Neither does its interpretation or enforcement.
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    I don't always agree but it is still the law.
    Void argument fallacy. What is still the law? What law?
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    It serves no purpose in telling the courts,
    Courts do not make law.
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    legislative and executive branches they are all interpreting
    The make law. They don't interpret anything. They may only make law that they have authority to make according to the Constitution, and only through the means described in that Constitution.
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    it wrong just because you disagree.
    You are trying to change the Constitution through a Consensus Fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes you do. Don't lie. You are trying to change the Constitution of the United States.

    Really?? Define it then. Bet you can't. I already know the definition of 'reality'.

    The law does not define 'reality'. Neither does its interpretation or enforcement.

    Void argument fallacy. What is still the law? What law?

    Courts do not make law.

    The make law. They don't interpret anything. They may only make law that they have authority to make according to the Constitution, and only through the means described in that Constitution.

    You are trying to change the Constitution through a Consensus Fallacy.
    What provision(s) of the Constitution am I trying to change?

    I'm not the one who claims naturalization includes immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    What provision(s) of the Constitution am I trying to change?

    I'm not the one who claims naturalization includes immigration.
    I have already told you. You are trying to place the courts above the Constitution and install them as an oligarchy. You have openly tried to change the first amendment. You have openly tried to cancel the Constitution through the 'welfare clause'. You have openly tried to modify the 2nd amendment. You have openly tried to modify other amendments as well. Perhaps you have a memory problem. You should look into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I have already told you. You are trying to place the courts above the Constitution and install them as an oligarchy. You have openly tried to change the first amendment. You have openly tried to cancel the Constitution through the 'welfare clause'. You have openly tried to modify the 2nd amendment. You have openly tried to modify other amendments as well. Perhaps you have a memory problem. You should look into it.
    The problem is with your imagination. I never mentioned the "welfare clause," I don't want to make any changes in the 2nd Amendment.

    I did discuss the 1st Amendment and function of the courts in practice, but just to explain your misconceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The problem is with your imagination. I never mentioned the "welfare clause,"
    Yes you did, liar.
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    I don't want to make any changes in the 2nd Amendment.
    Yes you did, liar.
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    I did discuss the 1st Amendment and function of the courts in practice, but just to explain your misconceptions.
    You attempted to change this amendment also, liar.

    You want to create fascism by oligarchy using the courts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes you did, liar.

    Yes you did, liar.

    You attempted to change this amendment also, liar.

    You want to create fascism by oligarchy using the courts.
    I was simply trying to correct your wildly distorted and incorrect views of the Constitution.

    Trying to create fascism is above my pay grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I was simply trying to correct your wildly distorted and incorrect views of the Constitution.

    Trying to create fascism is above my pay grade.
    It is YOU that denies the Constitution. It is YOU that is placing the courts ABOVE the Constitution of the United States as supreme law of the land.

    You want to create fascism by oligarchy using the courts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    It is YOU that denies the Constitution. It is YOU that is placing the courts ABOVE the Constitution of the United States as supreme law of the land.

    You want to create fascism by oligarchy using the courts.
    You are reading what you want to in my posts---not based on anything I ever said. You are arguing against a straw man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You are reading what you want to in my posts---not based on anything I ever said. You are arguing against a straw man.
    Into the Night is a little retarded. Just a little. But it's certainly noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You are reading what you want to in my posts---not based on anything I ever said. You are arguing against a straw man.
    Okay. I'll consider your entire set of arguments withdrawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Okay. I'll consider your entire set of arguments withdrawn.
    Most of my posts were just citing current constitutional law which governs the country today even if it is at odds with your opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Most of my posts were just citing current constitutional law which governs the country today even if it is at odds with your opinions.
    You withdrew your arguments. Are you attempting to make them again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Banning guns is unconstitutional. Not pointless. Attempted bans fail because there is no consequence.
    Makes the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution pointless doesn't it?

    When the Constitution was written, our civilians (THE PEOPLE) were the Militia! That has not been the case since the Revolutionary war!

    Let me tell you idiots something- YOU ARE NOT AMERICA'S MILITIA- With or without guns.

    Our Armed services of the Army, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard is America's militia, and they are doing a stand-up job WITHOUT YOUR FUCKING HELP!

    Fucking idiots for even thinking that the militia applies to you!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Makes the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution pointless doesn't it?

    When the Constitution was written, our civilians (THE PEOPLE) were the Militia! That has not been the case since the Revolutionary war!

    Let me tell you idiots something- YOU ARE NOT AMERICA'S MILITIA- With or without guns.

    Our Armed services of the Army, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard is America's militia, and they are doing a stand-up job WITHOUT YOUR FUCKING HELP!

    Fucking idiots for even thinking that the militia applies to you!



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    Thats not the point of the 2nd.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
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