Reply With QuoteWe're listening???????????????????????????????????Originally Posted by Celticguy
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I never withdrew my arguments. I said "You are reading what you want to in my posts---not based on anything I ever said. You are arguing against a straw man."
Because you read stuff into my posts I did not say (I want a fascist government run by the courts) does my mean I am withdrawing any actual points I made.
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We're listening???????????????????????????????????
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
No where is it mentioned that the "people" are required to currently belong to a militia; but instead it implies that WE ARE THE MILITIA.
SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
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You are living in the Stone Age!
You are not now, nor have you ever been a part of the militia- unless you served your country.
And if you did, the service took away your service weapons away from you before they let you out!
Stupid man thinks he is part of some militia because he totes his gun around!
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Care to show where the citizens of the US aren't the militia??
SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
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NO dumbass, I don't intend to entertain your stupidity!Care to show where the citizens of the US aren't the militia??
The National Guard is a militia- not you dumb ass.
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So you have no proof and you could have just admitted it.
SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
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How come I own 4 military issued firearms?You are living in the Stone Age!
You are not now, nor have you ever been a part of the militia- unless you served your country.
And if you did, the service took away your service weapons away from you before they let you out!
Stupid man thinks he is part of some militia because he totes his gun around!
Some time back you asked for a reasonable discussion without any insults. I responded respectfully and you ran off.
Now, you can go fuck yourself. If you don't like that I own what I own come and take them. Come around 3:30 AM, I'll let the door open for you, asshole.
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
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Probably because you illegally obtained them!
I don't run off- I actually have a life outside of this forum.
I don't want to take your playtoys away dude!
Please, just don't shoot up a Kindergarten or C & W outdoor concert or high school with them, OK?
Get Off My Lawn
I bought them from the Army.
You're here more than I.
I don't consider them toys.
What makes you think I'd do something like that?
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
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Lie.
So you are withdrawing your arguments again?? Make up your mind, dude!
Contextomy fallacy.
When you figure out whether you want to continue your arguments or withdraw them, let me know.
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The 2nd amendment discusses two rights, not one.
The right of a State to self defense by forming militias made up of the people of that State.
The right of an individual to self defense by bearing arms. This includes the right but is not limited to, to defend your State by joining the State militia or serving it's cause.
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The army, navy, air force, marines, etc. is NOT the militia. Redefinition fallacy (militia <-> military).
Membership in a State militia is not required. Most States have militias. Washington State currently has about 75 members in the organized militia.
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I never withdrew a single argument. That was all your imagination or reading comprehension. That may explain your interpretation of the Constitution.
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The National Guard is a federal militia. This is not even addressed by the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment refers to a State's right to self defense by forming organized militias (most States have one), and the individual's right to self defense by bearing arms. It talks about TWO rights, not one.
A State has the right to self defense simply by it's existence as a State, that is, a body of people that have come together to form a republic and who have joined the Union. States defend themselves by forming State militias made up of the people of that State. The National Guard is NOT a State militia of any State.
An individual also has the right to self defense, simply because they are living breathing thing. Every animal, including Man, has the right to defend themselves by any means available to them. Man has the right to bear arms. The federal government and State governments are specifically directed not to interfere with that right.
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