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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    This isn't about Americans traveling to Cuba, it's about Cubans having the freedom to leave their country.
    Um...

    "USA National Security Advisor, John Bolton, hints for new restrictions to Cuba travel for American citizens."

    "To Cuba."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Maybe you should stick to stalking and harassing women - if you can find any that haven't gotten a judge to order you to stay away from them.


    The United States is a global leader when it comes to assisting individuals fleeing persecution—including refugees and asylum seekers. We accept far more refugees referred from the United Nation’s High Commissioner for Refugees than any other country in the world. From Fiscal Year 2008 to Fiscal Year 2017, the United States gave Lawful Permanent Resident status to 1,761,927 individuals, which is a number larger than the entire population of twelve states and the District of Columbia.

    https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/11/09/dhs-myth-vs-fact-asylum-proclamation-and-rule
    Indeed, Legion. The world wants to come to America. Just look at the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Myth-busting teabaggers could be a full time job for you!

    Here is the thing teabaggers do not understand: In general, the United States has always been pretty stingy when accepting international refugees, or taking action on humanitarian grounds. That reality does not comport with our rhetoric, which makes it hard for a teabagger to swallow.

    The U.S. accepted very few Jews fleeing Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

    As for communism, to the extent we accepted refugees, it was almost always done for our own political interest as part of they asymetric warfare of Cold War propaganda. Sure, we would accept some high profile Soviet emigrees, aka Solzhenitsyn, and we would accept Cuban refugees. Those actions were beneficial for winning the propaganda during the Cold War. It was a game of Realpolitick. The president who was actually the most genuinely humanitarian towards Soviet dissidents was Jimmy Carter.

    And long before teabaggers tried to make our immigration policy racist against brown people, our immigration policy was racist against Chinese and East Asians. Some ethnic Russians trying to flee communist Chinese oppression were denied entry into the United States. Even though these Russians did not have a drop of Chinese DNA, for immigration purposes the U.S. considered them Chinese because they were born on Chinese soil -- and our policy was to not allow any Chinese immigration whatsoever. A total rejection. Those ethnic Russians had to go to countries that would accept them: Australia, Canada, Paraguay, Argentina, et al.

    So when Bedtime for Bonzo was holding out American as the shining city on the hill, the reality was we were always stingy about who we would let into the country. And we were never particularly generous on humanitarian grounds or to refugees.
    The truth isn't in you, pende*o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    The truth isn't in you, pende*o.
    He's got several active restraining orders against him filed by women he's stalked and harassed, Earl.

    PM me for details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    "Taking them in" is one of the dopier memes from the RW.
    Ooooh my goodness. I don't know what to say anymore dear Christy. This is exasperating and so repetitive. So here we go.

    If anyone would like to take illegal aliens into their homes, on their property in tents, on blow-up mattresses in their living rooms, wherever
    and care for them, please do so.

    If anyone would like to pledge X amount of dollars to sponsor, help house, feed, clothe, medicate and educate illegals, please do so.

    Whatever a person determines in their own heart to give or donate, let them do it...quietly, secretly and without judgement on
    what OTHERS should do.

    Just step up to the plate and do what you as an INDIVIDUAL feel is proper for any humanitarian cause.

    It's not for our government to condone ILLEGAL activity and thus SPONSOR it or pay for it or FORCE others
    to PARTICIPATE in an illegal activity.

    Give through private organizations, churches, synagogues who are equipped to handle large scale humanitarian crises.

    No person (Dem or Pub) wants to be ordered to give their honestly-earned money to charitable causes.

    God himself does not order it either.

    "Each one should give what he has decided in his heart to give , not out of regret or compulsion. For God loves a cheerful giver."
    2 Cor 9:7


    "Be careful not to perform your righteous acts before men to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be praised by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
    Mat 6:1-4


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    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Indeed, Legion. The world wants to come to America. Just look at the border.
    Indeed, Earl.

    Yet liberals said they wanted to leave if Trump was elected, didn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    God himself does not order it either.
    Christiecrite doesn't believe in God, Ms. Stretch. She only pretends to when she thinks she can shame "cons" into agreeing with her liberal agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Indeed, Earl.

    Yet liberals said they wanted to leave if Trump was elected, didn't they?
    Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That video! This is insane, this has got to stop.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Merit based immigration. We take the brightest, the cream of of the crop.

    Those who share our values, speak our language, English, and won't be a burden on the American taxpayers.

    How great is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Merit based immigration. We take the brightest, the cream of of the crop.

    Those who share our values, speak our language, English, and won't be a burden on the American taxpayers.

    How great is that?

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    if staying here were merit based many of out JPP lib'ruls would have to leave......

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    Lay down the crack pipe and learn how to follow a thread...


    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Um...

    "USA National Security Advisor, John Bolton, hints for new restrictions to Cuba travel for American citizens."

    "To Cuba."
    194 Stretch
    Try quit moving the goal posts.

    Communism forces people to remain in that country. If they manage to escape, take them in.
    Civil War is...does it have to be spelled out? We had one. Remember hearing about it?
    Lawlessness and drugs? We have that HERE. Stay and fight, change laws, become a cop, work to make changes.

    231 christiefan915

    Vietnam is a communist country and people are allowed to leave.
    Other countries are Cuba, China and Laos. What proof do you have that the people can't leave?
    231 Stretch: Cuba
    236 christiefan915: Nope.

    As of January 14, 2013, all Cuban government-imposed travel restrictions and controls have been abolished.[55][56]

    Since that date, any Cuban citizen, with a valid passport, can leave the country at will, without let or hindrance from the Cuban authorities. Visa requirements for Cuban citizens are administrative entry restrictions by the authorities of other states placed on citizens of Cuba. In 2014, Cuban citizens had visa-free or visa on arrival access to 61 countries and territories, ranking the Cuban passport 69th in the world. Persons holding dual Spanish and Cuban citizenships are now allowed to travel freely, using their Spanish passport in lieu of a visa for countries normally requiring a visa for the Cuban passport. Moreover, ever since that date, the Cuban government extended the allowable time abroad from 11 to 24 months, allowing Cubans who return within the 24-month time frame to retain their status and benefits of "Cuban Resident of the Interior". Should the citizen remain out of Cuba for more that 24 months, then his status would change to "Cuban Resident of the Exterior" and he would lose his privileges within.

    By this change, there is no longer such a thing as "illegal" or "unauthorized" travel, and therefore persons who leave Cuba via unconventional means (boats etc.) are no longer violating Cuban law, and therefore not subject to detention or imprisonment.
    246 Slushball

    That is all about to change, Snowflake.

    http://authenticubatours.com/us-legal-cubatravel.htm
    252 christiefan915 This isn't about Americans traveling to Cuba, it's about Cubans having the freedom to leave their country.
    256 Slushball

    Um...

    "USA National Security Advisor, John Bolton, hints for new restrictions to Cuba travel for American citizens."

    "To Cuba."


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Lay down the crack pipe and learn how to follow a thread...
    I think the crack pipe is in Hunter Bidens car

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Ooooh my goodness. I don't know what to say anymore dear Christy. This is exasperating and so repetitive. So here we go.

    If anyone would like to take illegal aliens into their homes, on their property in tents, on blow-up mattresses in their living rooms, wherever
    and care for them, please do so.

    If anyone would like to pledge X amount of dollars to sponsor, help house, feed, clothe, medicate and educate illegals, please do so.

    Whatever a person determines in their own heart to give or donate, let them do it...quietly, secretly and without judgement on
    what OTHERS should do.

    Just step up to the plate and do what you as an INDIVIDUAL feel is proper for any humanitarian cause.

    It's not for our government to condone ILLEGAL activity and thus SPONSOR it or pay for it or FORCE others
    to PARTICIPATE in an illegal activity.

    Give through private organizations, churches, synagogues who are equipped to handle large scale humanitarian crises.

    No person (Dem or Pub) wants to be ordered to give their honestly-earned money to charitable causes.

    God himself does not order it either.

    "Each one should give what he has decided in his heart to give , not out of regret or compulsion. For God loves a cheerful giver."
    2 Cor 9:7


    "Be careful not to perform your righteous acts before men to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be praised by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
    Mat 6:1-4


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    I know what you're saying but I think we have a misunderstanding about terminology. When I say "illegals" I mean those people who sneak across the border and manage to disappear without getting caught. I am not talking about people who present themselves at the border checkpoints in the hopes of being allowed to stay, because they have done nothing illegal. If individuals, charities, institutions etc. want to help the second group I'm all for it.

    I think that people who cross the border illegally will try their hardest to stay under the radar and would be less likely to ask for services that could expose their illegality.

    And also with you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Indeed, Earl.

    Yet liberals said they wanted to leave if Trump was elected, didn't they?
    No matter who's president there's always some disgruntled group crying about leaving the country. This didn't start with trump.

    And don't respond with "if I had said blah blah blah you'd have a point, but I didn't, so you don't."

    I'm onto your word games, leggiecrite.


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