Waiting forr the JPP Left's "Big Plan" to End China's Theft and Cheating,w/o Tariffs

[Grokmaster]

You mean like China's "five year plan" for the economy aimed at making them self sufficient? Or the other similar state sponsored designs Japan and the several EU nations have in effect?

They'll be calling you a Commie

Wil not happen. China CANNOT EAT without US revenues....

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Clinton would have signed it, I'd even wager she would have worked to get it approved, as I noted earlier, she supported it till it polled bad, she was a pure politician, although a bad one

Few here even understand trade, or the complexities involved, let alone what Trump is attempting.

And Trump is going to come up, it is his trade policy

It isn’t complex. Either you support free trade or you don’t. If you do you don’t need an agreement. You just allow goods to flow freely

Free trade agreements are nothing more than corporate welfare for rent seekers

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It isn’t complex. Either you support free trade or you don’t. If you do you don’t need an agreement. You just allow goods to flow freely

Free trade agreements are nothing more than corporate welfare for rent seekers

tariffs have their place, neocon scum.

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Please DETAIL your delusion of how the TPP would limit Red China....

"Detail," no, got tired of explaining it to you Trumpkins at the time, here, do it on your own (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership), but briefly, it would have established the US as a major player in the Far East, while encircling China's neighbors in a trade agreement that excluded China, meaning if China had any ambitions of joining it they would have to conform to the rules and regulations established in the treaty

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It isn’t complex. Either you support free trade or you don’t. If you do you don’t need an agreement. You just allow goods to flow freely

Free trade agreements are nothing more than corporate welfare for rent seekers

Not that simple, it isn't a question of having a deal or not having a deal, free trade doesn't mean there aren't any restrictions between trading partners

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Wil not happen. China CANNOT EAT without US revenues....

Perhaps, but they can get those revenues elsewhere, haven't you been paying attention, since Trump has alienated even some of our traditional political and economic allies, China has gained inroads all over the world

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I already told you, TPP, but Trump blew that one

Given such, it ain't escalating trade wars, Trump has one currently going with China, Canada, and the EU, he sure as hell ain't accomplishing much with his attempt to bully the Chinese, in fact, just like North Korea, when something is arrived at it will most likely be further to China's benefit

Arsecheese, stop being such an almighty knobhead, TPP was a monumentally stupid idea. I mean holy shit even the Guardian thought so!!

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ctual-property

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tariffs have their place, neocon scum.

Did I say they didn’t?

I think there are certain foods and services that are if a national security interest that makes sense to keep American

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Arsecheese, stop being such an almighty knobhead, TPP was a monumentally stupid idea. I mean holy shit even the Guardian thought so!!

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ctual-property

Pretty funny, an opinion piece written in a foreign vehicle published before the details of the TPP were even released now proves that TPP was a "stupid idea," and "fogcatcher" really did post that

[anatta]

Perhaps, but they can get those revenues elsewhere, haven't you been paying attention, since Trump has alienated even some of our traditional political and economic allies, China has gained inroads all over the world

since?? WTF are you yammering about?? When did China start it's' "new Silk Road?"

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/chi...oad-initiative
n 2013, Chinese President Xi Jinping announced the launch of both the Silk Road Economic Belt and the 21st Century Maritime Silk Road, infrastructure development and investment initiatives that would stretch from East Asia to Europe. The project, eventually termed the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) but sometimes known as the New Silk Road, is one of the most ambitious infrastructure projects ever conceived. It harkens back to the original Silk Road, which connected Europe to Asia centuries ago, enriching traders from the Atlantic to the Pacific.

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Now leftists say TPP was the greatest thing?

ROFLMAO

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Now leftists say TPP was the greatest thing?

ROFLMAO

Ah, not what was said, pay attention, the comment was that TPP could have addressed the situation in a more productive manner than just attempting to bully another nations with trade wars. It is called diplomacy, economic diplomacy, something Trump has shown he is not all that good at

[Sailor]

Pretty funny, an opinion piece written in a foreign vehicle published before the details of the TPP were even released now proves that TPP was a "stupid idea," and "fogcatcher" really did post that

Chomsky, Reich, Krugman, Sanders and many other liberals you kotow to were dead set against it. Even they had to admit is was a bad deal.

[Althea]

Are you saying lower taxes influence behavior in a positive way?

Think before you answer

Why think? Putting demands on the prize is very different than any tax policy Republicans have passed throughout history. So yes...being forced to heel in exchange for tax consideration influences behavior, but only if the alternative is higher taxes.
It isn't.

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Did I say they didn’t?

I think there are certain foods and services that are if a national security interest that makes sense to keep American

oh it seemed you were making it a simple binary... my bad.