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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post

    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
    Try doing some honest research next time, instead of listening to Fox Noise and the like.

    For your education:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/02/th...reen-new-deal/

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/al...cortez-amazon/

    https://www.theverge.com/interface/2...ves-automation

    Why don’t you listen to what Cuomo had to say in a Friday interview on Rochester public radio station WXXI.
    He said “it was just incredibly frustrating because it was disingenuous, because they lied about the facts” referring to the opposing politicians including AOC.
    AOC was the biggest face of the opposition against the headquarters.
    Cuomo said they lost 27 billion in revenue over a ten year period as well as 25,000 jobs “because they wanted to play politics “.
    Cuomo's duplicity is well known to us New Yorkers. His version of events doesn't jibe with ALL the facts. Like you, he prefers his myopic viewpoint that supports his contentions....thus leaving out what doesn't, as my links prove.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

    George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Yup. You were being ironic. Thanks
    What was ironic about what I said?

    I do think it's ironic that Trump claims to oppose Islamic extremism, but is close with Saudi Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Cuomo's duplicity is well known to us New Yorkers. His version of events doesn't jibe with ALL the facts. Like you, he prefers his myopic viewpoint that supports his contentions....thus leaving out what doesn't, as my links prove.

    Of course your sources are much better than statements direct from the Governor of New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    now ask your self why the right always says she is just a bartender?
    Pretty much the job she had before Congress. Getting a degree does not make one educated or intelligent.

    AOC proves that almost every time she speaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    If what you're trying to say is that people with high IQs tend to vote Democrat more than Republican, sure.
    That is what YOU are saying. YOU were the one to trying to make that ridiculous argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's a common tactic on the Right.
    No, that's misunderstanding the Constitution of the United States, particularly the 1st amendment.
    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    When they get criticized for what they say, they just start talking about how they have the right to say what they want.
    They do have the right to say what they want politically. The federal government can do nothing about it. No state government can do anything about it (that is, if they want to honor their own constitutions).
    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Pence did the same thing when he got called out by Buttigieg for his stupid ideas.
    Irrelevant. Pence is allowed to say what he wants. So are people that disagree with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    She tried to answer it, but the retard kept interrupting.
    No, she tried to evade. He tried to keep her on task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, that's misunderstanding the Constitution of the United States, particularly the 1st amendment.

    They do have the right to say what they want politically. The federal government can do nothing about it. No state government can do anything about it (that is, if they want to honor their own constitutions).

    Irrelevant. Pence is allowed to say what he wants politically. So are people that disagree with him.
    The 1st amendment applies ONLY to the federal government. It prohibits the federal government from passing any law restricting speech (even yelling 'fire' in a movie theater. The States have similar wording in the own constitutions, but allow for room to pass laws concerning public safety, including restricting certain speech.

    But the federal government has NO constitutional authority there.

    Similarly, the federal government cannot prohibit a religion or create a government religion. States can, though, if it is written into their constitutions (none currently have that).

    These restrictions apply to government, not the people.

    Now if someone wants to be a jerk and say the wrong thing in a bar, he will likely get punched in the nose. The constitution has no effect here. It is not even involved, neither for the rude comment, nor for the assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post

    They do have the right to say what they want politically. The federal government can do nothing about it. No state government can do anything about it (that is, if they want to honor their own constitutions).
    Yes, but they are not free from criticism. If you say something stupid, people will criticize you for it, even though you are free to continue saying stupid things.

    Irrelevant. Pence is allowed to say what he wants. So are people that disagree with him.
    Yes, but Buttigieg wasn't saying Pence didn't have the legal right to be anti-gay. Buttigieg was criticizing Pence's anti-gay policies, and instead of defending them, Pence simply said he has the First Amendment. It's a pussy move used by people who don't have the balls to stand behind their crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    That is what YOU are saying. YOU were the one to trying to make that ridiculous argument.
    Not making an argument, just stating the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Yes, but they are not free from criticism.
    I already said this. Pay attention.
    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    If you say something stupid, people will criticize you for it, even though you are free to continue saying stupid things.
    I already said this. Pay attention.
    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Yes, but Buttigieg wasn't saying Pence didn't have the legal right to be anti-gay.
    ...deleted remaining irrelevant material...
    Not the topic. Try to stay focused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Not making an argument, just stating the fact.
    Not a fact. An argument. An argument that YOU presented. Learn what a 'fact' is. Learn what an 'argument' is. Use English. It works better.

    Argument: a conclusion and a set of predicates.
    Fact: an assumed and agreed upon predicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I already said this. Pay attention.

    I already said this. Pay attention.

    Not the topic. Try to stay focused.
    You sure do like to jump from topic to topic a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
    Cuomo's duplicity is well known to us New Yorkers. His version of events doesn't jibe with ALL the facts. Like you, he prefers his myopic viewpoint that supports his contentions....thus leaving out what doesn't, as my links prove
    .
    Of course your sources are much better than statements direct from the Governor of New York.
    they are when folk like you cannot factually disprove them with documented, reputable sources. Your boy Mario once dissolved a committee looking into local gov't corruption after the heat came too close to his political allies and friends. Check that out as well.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

    George Orwell

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