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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I dunno, why don't you make a thread on the topic & ask the good folks here??
    I will accept your concession that it is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
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    I'm glad you agree programs like food stamps and welfare should no longer exist. You're learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Screwing the poor is popular among the greedy rich.
    I would clarify that the generous rich do not share in the win/lose philosophy. Win/lose is a shortcoming of the greedy rich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I read recently that we now have 1/4 of the homeless in the country living in Calif..

    Over 50,000 in LA alone...
    Ya ... They are shitting and leaving their needles everywhere !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    Ya ... They are shitting and leaving their needles everywhere !
    Unfortunately that is true... What do you think the solution is??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    You damn "welfare leeches" have not seen real poverty. Where are all those people who have starved to death in this nation from a lack of anything? I find it amusing when some leftist declares a household that has almost 2 of everything....cars, phones, tv's, cell phones...bathrooms.....etc., as being IMPOVISHERED. Take a trip to some socialist/communist nation if you want to see real poverty. Go visit Cuba or Venezuela...N. Korea...etc.,
    I work part time with low income minorities that live in the intercity. They earn $11.50 an hour working part time hours but are able to afford cigarettes and going out to the bar to get drunk. Half have at least one kid.
    Welfare leeches is a good term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Screwing the poor is popular among the greedy rich.
    You do realize that the majority of the 1% are from the jack ass party.
    Do you also know in a Rasmussen report, it was determined that in March 2014 just 16% of blacks felt life for young blacks had gotten better since Obama’s election. In Obama’s final year that number dropped to 13%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    More Americans forced on to the streets, make America great again


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    The Trump administration may alter the way it determines the national poverty threshold, putting Americans living on the margins at risk of losing access to welfare programs.

    The possible move would involve changing how inflation is calculated in the “official poverty measure,” the White House Office of Management and Budget said in a regulatory filing on Monday. The formula has been used for decades to determine whether people qualify for certain federal programs and benefits.

    The measure, first set in the 1960s, is calculated at three times the cost of a minimum food diet and adjusted every year as prices rise. In 2018, a family of four making no more than $25,900 was considered impoverished. The figure determines eligibility for a wide swath of federal, state, and non-profit programs, including Medicaid and food stamps.


    By changing the index the government uses to calculate how much the cost of living rises or falls, the poverty level could rise at a slower rate.

    One proposal the Office of Management and Budget suggested in the filing is to shift to so-called chained CPI, which regularly shows a slower pace of price gains than traditional measures. Chained CPI shows slower inflation growth because it assumes consumers will substitute less expensive items when prices for specific individual goods increase significantly.

    “Because of this, changes to the poverty thresholds, including how they are updated for inflation over time, may affect eligibility for programs that use the poverty guidelines,” OMB said in a notice published to the federal register.

    A spokesman for OMB did not return a request for comment.

    Read more: Lowest earners miss out as incomes and spending rise

    The possible change appears to be the latest effort by the Trump administration to make it harder to access welfare programs. Last year, President Donald Trump signed an executive order calling on federal agencies to more strictly enforce current work requirements for welfare recipients, and propose additional, more stringent requirements that could further reduce eligibility.

    “Millions of able-bodied, working-age adults continue to collect food stamps without working or even looking for work,” Trump said in December. “Our goal is to move these Americans from dependence to independence, and into a good-paying job and rewarding career.”

    This isn’t the first time a White House has considered using chained CPI to bring down the cost of government programs. President Barack Obama in 2014 proposed switching cost-of-living adjustments in Social Security and other retirement programs to the index. Congressional Democrats responded with an uproar, causing Obama to abandon the proposal in later budgets.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...IiJ?li=BBnbfcN
    Don’t you worry your welfare checks are safe.
    Social welfare programs are mandatory spending. These entitlement expenditures are mandated by law.
    It is Congress that established mandatory programs under authorization laws.
    Congress can only reduce the funding for programs by changing the authorization law.

    Entitlement programs do have specific requirements. It is Congress that sets eligibility requirements and benefits for entitlement programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Unfortunately that is true... What do you think the solution is??
    Reopen psychiatric hospitals ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loving91390 View Post
    Reopen psychiatric hospitals ......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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