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    Default Best Interpretation Of Mueller Report I Have Seen

    At least it is the most honest report I have seen, and demonstrates with actual facts how Trump is using the Mueller report to usurp Congress, the Constitution, and our Rule of Law:


    http://time.com/5581727/how-trump-uses-mueller-report/

    On its face, the Mueller report is disturbing. It details a massive Russian operation to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and multiple efforts by the Russians to influence the Trump campaign. Mueller did not establish that Trump or his associates knowingly aided the Russian effort, but his report paints a damning picture of the Trump camp’s openness to Russia’s advances. Worse, the report lays out a series of alarming, possibly obstructive actions Trump took to prevent investigators from finding out what happened in 2016.

    Trump likely fired former FBI director James Comey because of the Russia investigation, then misrepresented why he fired him, Mueller found. Trump tried to pressure former Attorney General Jeff Sessions to limit the scope of Mueller’s inquiry, then tried to fire Sessions. The President ordered McGahn to fire Mueller; McGahn went so far as to pack up his office in preparation to quit rather than interfere with Mueller’s work. “The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests,” the special counsel wrote.

    Mueller felt constrained in how he could respond to the evidence of Trump’s potential obstruction. Department of Justice protocol suggests a sitting President cannot be indicted, and Mueller took great care to explain in his report that he had decided to abide by that position. The best Mueller seemed to be able to muster was an argument that Congress could take up the case itself. “The conclusion that Congress may apply obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law,” the report says.
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    Why do you need an interpretation? Download it and read it yourself. Nothing lost in the translation.

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    “It’s far bigger than Watergate. I think it’s possibly the biggest scandal in political history in this country.”

    That's Trump's opinion of the Mueller investigation (to Hannity on Fox News). And he's a "student of history".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    At least it is the most honest report I have seen, and demonstrates with actual facts how Trump is using the Mueller report to usurp Congress, the Constitution, and our Rule of Law:


    http://time.com/5581727/how-trump-uses-mueller-report/

    On its face, the Mueller report is disturbing. It details a massive Russian operation to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and multiple efforts by the Russians to influence the Trump campaign. Mueller did not establish that Trump or his associates knowingly aided the Russian effort, but his report paints a damning picture of the Trump camp’s openness to Russia’s advances. Worse, the report lays out a series of alarming, possibly obstructive actions Trump took to prevent investigators from finding out what happened in 2016.

    Trump likely fired former FBI director James Comey because of the Russia investigation, then misrepresented why he fired him, Mueller found. Trump tried to pressure former Attorney General Jeff Sessions to limit the scope of Mueller’s inquiry, then tried to fire Sessions. The President ordered McGahn to fire Mueller; McGahn went so far as to pack up his office in preparation to quit rather than interfere with Mueller’s work. “The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests,” the special counsel wrote.

    Mueller felt constrained in how he could respond to the evidence of Trump’s potential obstruction. Department of Justice protocol suggests a sitting President cannot be indicted, and Mueller took great care to explain in his report that he had decided to abide by that position. The best Mueller seemed to be able to muster was an argument that Congress could take up the case itself. “The conclusion that Congress may apply obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law,” the report says.
    We were told the report isn’t avaialble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Why do you need an interpretation? Download it and read it yourself. Nothing lost in the translation.
    Unless you are an attorney, wading through and figuring out legalese is not easy.

    I don't believe that the author of this opinion piece is an attorney, but this much is true:

    "Now Trump is using the Mueller report itself to expand the power of the chief executive. Claiming that Mueller exonerated him, Trump and his lawyers are refusing to cooperate with most congressional investigations, even though the special counsel seemed to call for them. More ambitiously, Trump is using the report as a weapon against his 2020 political opponents, raising money off the top-line findings and saying he was the target of an illegal coup, in the hope that the inaccurate claim will inflame his voters and drive them to the ballot box.

    "Some of these moves are intentional, the result of a strategy developed and implemented by the President’s lawyers. Some are instinctive–Trump’s zero-sum worldview drives him to amass power. Some, the report shows, happen almost by chance. But whatever the reasons, Trump’s effort to politicize the Mueller investigation may have worked. Despite its alarming revelations, polls suggest the President’s support has not been dented by the special counsel’s report."

    I guess you don't find this alarming?

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    That it needs ‘interpretation’ is a big red flag lol.

    Mullet is appointed to investigate crimes and he produces a political document. Just shut it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    We were told the report isn’t avaialble
    The unredacted version is not:

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    At least it is the most honest report I have seen, and demonstrates with actual facts how Trump is using the Mueller report to usurp Congress, the Constitution, and our Rule of Law:


    http://time.com/5581727/how-trump-uses-mueller-report/

    On its face, the Mueller report is disturbing. It details a massive Russian operation to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and multiple efforts by the Russians to influence the Trump campaign. Mueller did not establish that Trump or his associates knowingly aided the Russian effort, but his report paints a damning picture of the Trump camp’s openness to Russia’s advances. Worse, the report lays out a series of alarming, possibly obstructive actions Trump took to prevent investigators from finding out what happened in 2016.

    Trump likely fired former FBI director James Comey because of the Russia investigation, then misrepresented why he fired him, Mueller found. Trump tried to pressure former Attorney General Jeff Sessions to limit the scope of Mueller’s inquiry, then tried to fire Sessions. The President ordered McGahn to fire Mueller; McGahn went so far as to pack up his office in preparation to quit rather than interfere with Mueller’s work. “The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests,” the special counsel wrote.

    Mueller felt constrained in how he could respond to the evidence of Trump’s potential obstruction. Department of Justice protocol suggests a sitting President cannot be indicted, and Mueller took great care to explain in his report that he had decided to abide by that position. The best Mueller seemed to be able to muster was an argument that Congress could take up the case itself. “The conclusion that Congress may apply obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law,” the report says.
    To bad this interpretation does not matter......according to the US RULE OF LAW and the Attorney General of the United States.....there were no crimes for conspiracy/collusion or obstruction committed.

    By this logic presented, Trump had every right to fire Comey for being incompetent when Comey concluded that Trump had colluded with Russian agents and requested an investigation to prove it through the leaking of classified information. Turns out.....Comey was wrong when a 2 year 25 million 20 democrat lawyer team and 40 FBI agent investigation found there was no evidence available that concluded that Trump or any member of his team...no US citizen either real or expressed (the so called "passive obstruction") was guilty of any crime of conspiracy with any Russian Agent.

    Proving Comey was incompetent as hell. The question that Trump asked Comey before he fired him? If there was suspected Russian interference during the 2016 campaign season.....why did you fail to stop it, why were you and others ordered to stand down when investigating the supposed Russian hacking of Classified information? Comey's answer? Don't pay any attention to the Steele dossier its nothing but unverified inflammatory rhetoric....you are not under investigation. All this supposed Russian interference did not happen under the watchful eye of any Trump administration...but under the closed eyes of BHO and company personal who were sure that Hillary was a lock and it did not matter.
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    Trump is a liar, a criminal and a traitor. - executive summary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    To bad this interpretation does not matter......according to the US RULE OF LAW and the Attorney General of the United States.....there were no crimes for conspiracy/collusion or obstruction committed.

    By this logic presented, Trump had every right to fire Comey for being incompetent when Comey concluded that Trump had colluded with Russian agents and requested an investigation to prove it through the leaking of classified information. Turns out.....Comey was wrong when a 2 year 25 million 20 democrat lawyer team and 40 FBI agent investigation found there was no evidence available that concluded that Trump or any member of his team...no US citizen either real or expressed (the so called "passive obstruction") was guilty of any crime of conspiracy with any Russian Agent.

    Proving Comey was incompetent as hell. The question that Trump asked Comey before he fired him? If there was suspected Russian interference during the 2016 campaign season.....why did you fail to stop it, why were you and others ordered to stand down when investigating the supposed Russian hacking of Classified information? Comey's answer? Don't pay any attention to the Steele dossier its nothing but unverified inflammatory rhetoric....you are not under investigation. All this supposed Russian interference did not happen under the watchful eye of any Trump administration...but under the closed eyes of BHO and company personal who were sure that Hillary was a lock and it did not matter.
    Get em, Ralphie lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Trump is a liar, a criminal and a traitor. - executive summary
    Barr......innocent. Case Closed. The end. Mueller team disbanded to go home and lick their collective wounds. Now its time for Mueller Time part 2....the real investigation with real objective and reproducible evidences of crimes that include Collusion with foreign agents and foreign governments, foreign spys, bribes and kickbacks...etc., I think Barr concluded that he prefers real Pale Ale over cookie cutter cheap drinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    To bad this interpretation does not matter......according to the US RULE OF LAW and the Attorney General of the United States.....there were no crimes for conspiracy/collusion or obstruction committed.

    By this logic presented, Trump had every right to fire Comey for being incompetent when Comey concluded that Trump had colluded with Russian agents and requested an investigation to prove it through the leaking of classified information. Turns out.....Comey was wrong when a 2 year 25 million 20 democrat lawyer team and 40 FBI agent investigation found there was no evidence available that concluded that Trump or any member of his team...no US citizen either real or expressed (the so called "passive obstruction") was guilty of any crime of conspiracy with any Russian Agent.

    Proving Comey was incompetent as hell. The question that Trump asked Comey before he fired him? If there was suspected Russian interference during the 2016 campaign season.....why did you fail to stop it, why were you and others ordered to stand down when investigating the supposed Russian hacking of Classified information? Comey's answer? Don't pay any attention to the Steele dossier its nothing but unverified inflammatory rhetoric....you are not under investigation. All this supposed Russian interference did not happen under the watchful eye of any Trump administration...but under the closed eyes of BHO and company personal who were sure that Hillary was a lock and it did not matter.
    10+ counts of obstruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    10+ counts of obstruction.
    Counts=indictments.

    Did I miss something lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Barr......innocent. Case Closed. The end. Mueller team disbanded to go home and lick their collective wounds. Now its time for Mueller Time part 2....the real investigation with real objective and reproducible evidences of crimes that include Collusion with foreign agents and foreign governments, foreign spys, bribes and kickbacks...etc., I think Barr concluded that he prefers real Pale Ale over cookie cutter cheap drinks.
    Get ready to belly-up to the Barr, Ralphie lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    Counts=indictments.

    Did I miss something lol?
    Yep, you sure did.

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