Barr confirms to Congress & the American people He's investigating the investigation

[Robo]

You should go read the letter.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...501-story.html


This doesn't look like a complaint about the media.


It was the failure of Barr's summary to capture the context, nature and substance that was the cause of any public confusion. The letter also included enclosures that Mueller felt would better explain his work and asked that Barr release those "at this time would alleviate the misunderstandings that have arisen and would answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation."

In fact, Mueller never once mentions the media in his letter. It is Barr's later testimony about a telephone call with Mueller that only brings up the media coverage as the reason.

Exactly! THE TELEPHONE CALL between Barr and Mueller. Not only did Barr testify that Mueller’s complaint was actually about the media’s coverage of his, (Barr’s) 4 page summary of Mueller’s report, Barr also testified that he ask Mueller on that phone call if his, (Barr’s), summary was “INACCURATE” and Barr testified that Mueller’s reply was “NO.” Barr also testified that Mueller ask/suggested that Barr submit 6 pages in addition to said summary contained in the volume Two about obstruction. Barr apparently declined because he already intended to deliver the entire redacted report to the Congress within a few days which would contain the 6 pages un-redacted that Mueller thought should be exposed to the Congress and the people. Let us present ALL of Barr’s testimony, shall we? Let’s not forget that Barr was under NO obligation to deliver any of the Mueller report to anybody by law. The man bent over backward to make the maximum amount of the Mueller report public, seems to his regret now that Democrats have pounced on Mueller’s bone he threw to the Democrats in Congress on the “OBSTRUCTION” HE MUELLER COULDN’T INDICT ANYBODY FOR. And the junkyard rabid mad dog Democrats have pounced all over it simply to prolong the Trump hate and persecution.

Whether Barr's testimony is perjury is hard to say but it certainly rises to the level of "lack of candor" for which McCabe was fired.

The easiest way to find out if Barr lied, is to bring Mueller before the Congress and ask him for his testimony relative to the letter he sent to Barr and the proceeding phone call before we call Barr a liar, don’t you think?

For Barr to have answered with complete candor he would have mentioned Mueller's letter.

Barr voluntarily came before the Senate committee to answer questions, not to offer red meat to a fucking gang of mad dog rabid Democrats on that committee who’s hair was still on fire because the Mueller report gave them squat!

His failure to bring it up shows a lack of candor.

His brilliance to answer only what was ask of him proves he’s one smart cookie!

I would suggest that the IG look into Barr's statement and make a ruling.

I don’t believe Inspector’s General have any power to make rulings, their only power is to investigate, deliver evidence and “offer opinions of probable crimes to be indicted.” That’s the same powers the Congress has. They can’t indict anybody they can only recommend indictments to the AG. Barr is the AG!!!!!!

[Robo]

The AG was scheduled to appear before the House Committee. He refused. So he’s being held in contempt. Not exactly rocket science. I would expect it to happen to anyone refusing to show up.

Actually, I do think he was held in contempt for refusing to deliver a totally un-redacted copy of the Mueller report to the gang of junkyard mad dog rabid Democrats which would be a violation of the law. The contempt citation is a laughable joke. What happened to Obama's AG Erick Holder's contempt of Congress citation? SQUAT!!!!! Let's see if Barr's will be any different.

[JPF]

Actually, I do think he was held in contempt for refusing to deliver a totally un-redacted copy of the Mueller report to the gang of junkyard mad dog rabid Democrats which would be a violation of the law. The contempt citation is a laughable joke. What happened to Obama's AG Erick Holder's contempt of Congress citation? SQUAT!!!!! Let's see if Barr's will be any different.

So you thought Holder's actions were proper? If not...how do you think Barr's actions are proper?

[Robo]

We can only wait and see what happens with China trade negotiations. If they fail, the markets are going to tank further and predictions are it will take 2% of GDP growth and possibly cause global recession. That won't be a roaring economy in a year.

Well, hope springs eternal especially with Democrats hoping America will go into a recession. That’s why I can’t think of any Democrat as a patriot. That’s why I never vote for a Democrat, EVER!!!!!

Wishful thinking doesn't a crime make. The evidence presented gives a reasonable excuse for the investigation to be started. I doubt any reasonable prosecutor would take the case and judges will always give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt. Any indictment would more likely lead to sanctioning the prosecutorial attempt for bringing such a weak case than convictions of any top officials.

How confident of you to believe there’s such a WEAK CASE before even the IG report gets delivered and Barr’s investigation gets up to speed. The last IG report hardly presented a weak case against McCabe, Strzok & Page.

Chicago doesn't elect dog catchers but once again your wishful thinking isn't facts and facts are what matter.

What FACTS are your HOPES based on? I think there’s a truck load of facts for me to base my hopes on.

If Barr attempted a prosecution on the flimsy claim that the FBI was acting politically there would be a greater chance of a rather large settlement in the civil suit for malicious prosecution than there is of anyone being convicted.

Only in leftist lala land would a coup-de-qua to prevent a candidate from becoming President of the United States and frame him for an invented crime after he was elected President be a “civil case.” It sure as hell looks like mocho felonies to me friend!!!!!

You may not have noticed but McCabe was let go over a year ago and his case was supposedly given to prosecutors at that time for possible indictment and nothing has come of that. Instead, the DoJ has refused to turn over any documents related to the firing to McCabe as required under FOIA when McCabe's lawyers requested them. The only coverup seems to be on the part of the Trump's DoJ's retaliation against top Obama FBI officials. McCabe announced a month or so ago he will be filing a civil lawsuit for wrongful termination once he finally saw the IG report.

I’m not worried that McCabe’s name and prosecution won’t come up again. There’s an investigation into the whole banana just starting and McCabe may well be charged with more multiple crimes. He’s likely being squeezed at president to cop a plea to drop a dime on the rest of the gang..

[Robo]

So you thought Holder's actions were proper? If not...how do you think Barr's actions are proper?

Holder refused to deliver documents into Fast & Furious where an American border petrol guard was murdered. Barr was held in contempt for refusing to illegally deliver a totally un-redacted Muller report to the entire Congress which is a crime. The two cases are apples & oranges!!!!!!

[JPF]

Holder refused to deliver documents into Fast & Furious where an American border petrol guard was murdered. Barr was held in contempt for refusing to illegally deliver a totally un-redacted Muller report to the entire Congress which is a crime. The two cases are apples & oranges!!!!!!

So is that a yes or no?

[Tranquillus in Exile]

The Trump Tower and Donald Trump Jr. Was also such an FBI prepared sting. I think that’s about to be uncovered. All of those people involved were FBI & or CIA operatives.

The Russian participants in the Trump Tower meeting were:

Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer best known for working to overturn President Obama's sanctions against Russia (the Magnitsky Act) and for defending Russian clients against money laundering charges in the US.

Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet intelligence officer suspected of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence (he denies it).

Ike Kaveladze, senior vice president of the real estate company owned by Russian oligarch and Trump associate Aras Agalarov.


Which of these do you think were working for the FBI?

[JPF]

If the spying was justified on the pretense that Russia was attempting to meddle in the Presidential campaigns, then it would be standard FBI practice to inform the candidate, would it not? Was Trump informed by the FBI? NO! I think there’s evidence that the FBI attempted to “set up” Trump campaign people to attempt to draw them into FBI set up collusion with people acting as Russians with dirt on Hillary and thereby make it appear Trump people had actual connections with Russians. The Trump Tower and Donald Trump Jr. Was also such an FBI prepared sting. I think that’s about to be uncovered. All of those people involved were FBI & or CIA operatives. “WHAT IF” that’s what is about to be exposed? “WHAT IF” that’s the Strzok & Page “insurance policy” their text were all about?



Trump should have been informed if the Russians were attempting to subvert his campaign and his people were actually believed to be covert suspects involved in Russia’s meddling. The only reason they wouldn’t inform Trump is if they had evidence Trump himself were knowingly involved, (no such evidence has ever been produced), or they were attempting to sting the Trump campaign and invent fake evidence they could use against Trump’s Presidency should he accidently win the election. “THE STRZOK/PAGE INSURANCE POLICY!!!!!!!!”

His son had a meeting with those "subverting" his campaign? The conspiracy theorists who believe this make the 9/11 truthers look sane.

[Robo]

The Russian participants in the Trump Tower meeting were:

Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer best known for working to overturn President Obama's sanctions against Russia (the Magnitsky Act) and for defending Russian clients against money laundering charges in the US.

Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet intelligence officer suspected of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence (he denies it).

Ike Kaveladze, senior vice president of the real estate company owned by Russian oligarch and Trump associate Aras Agalarov.


Which of these do you think were working for the FBI?

All of them! You know different because?

[Robo]

His son had a meeting with those "subverting" his campaign? The conspiracy theorists who believe this make the 9/11 truthers look sane.

How much time and money did Mueller spend trying to entrap Donald Jr. because of that tower meeting? Do you understand how a sting works?

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Exactly! THE TELEPHONE CALL between Barr and Mueller.

You claimed it was in the letter. If you can't tell the difference between a letter and a phone call, it makes it hard to accept the veracity of anything you say.

Not only did Barr testify that Mueller’s complaint was actually about the media’s coverage of his, (Barr’s) 4 page summary of Mueller’s report, Barr also testified that he ask Mueller on that phone call if his, (Barr’s), summary was “INACCURATE” and Barr testified that Mueller’s reply was “NO.” Barr also testified that Mueller ask/suggested that Barr submit 6 pages in addition to said summary contained in the volume Two about obstruction. Barr apparently declined because he already intended to deliver the entire redacted report to the Congress within a few days which would contain the 6 pages un-redacted that Mueller thought should be exposed to the Congress and the people. Let us present ALL of Barr’s testimony, shall we? Let’s not forget that Barr was under NO obligation to deliver any of the Mueller report to anybody by law. The man bent over backward to make the maximum amount of the Mueller report public, seems to his regret now that Democrats have pounced on Mueller’s bone he threw to the Democrats in Congress on the “OBSTRUCTION” HE MUELLER COULDN’T INDICT ANYBODY FOR. And the junkyard rabid mad dog Democrats have pounced all over it simply to prolong the Trump hate and persecution.

The problem is Barr didn't even mention that phone call in his first testimony. He never mentioned it when asked about complaints from the Mueller's staff. He also didn't mention the letter. That was clearly a lack of candor in no mentioning those 2 things. Whether Barr was supposed to release the report or not has nothing to do with his lack of candor on complaints by the Office of IC about his 4 page summary.

The easiest way to find out if Barr lied, is to bring Mueller before the Congress and ask him for his testimony relative to the letter he sent to Barr and the proceeding phone call before we call Barr a liar, don’t you think?

The easiest way to prove perjury perhaps. Barr's lack of candor is already pretty obvious.

Barr voluntarily came before the Senate committee to answer questions, not to offer red meat to a fucking gang of mad dog rabid Democrats on that committee who’s hair was still on fire because the Mueller report gave them squat!

Doesn't sound like a good excuse for perjury if he did commit that. It certainly isn't an excuse for lack of candor. McCabe volunteered to be interviewed as well but he was still let go for lack of candor.

His brilliance to answer only what was ask of him proves he’s one smart cookie!

That got Clinton impeached.

I don’t believe Inspector’s General have any power to make rulings, their only power is to investigate, deliver evidence and “offer opinions of probable crimes to be indicted.” That’s the same powers the Congress has. They can’t indict anybody they can only recommend indictments to the AG. Barr is the AG!!!!!!

So your argument is an AG is above the law? Stop and think about that for a moment.

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Actually, I do think he was held in contempt for refusing to deliver a totally un-redacted copy of the Mueller report to the gang of junkyard mad dog rabid Democrats which would be a violation of the law. The contempt citation is a laughable joke. What happened to Obama's AG Erick Holder's contempt of Congress citation? SQUAT!!!!! Let's see if Barr's will be any different.

Let's look at the errors in your statement.
1. He has not been held in contempt yet. That requires a vote of the entire House. The committee voted on a resolution of contempt.
2. The committee asked for the underlying evidence of which none was delivered. There is no law preventing that from being delivered.
3. If revealing grand jury testimony to Congress is against the law why is Ken Star not in jail? (Grand Jury testimony is protected from public release.) But the "grand jury testimony is a red herring. It is the other documents that are being withheld that are the real issue here.
4. Contempt citations are not jokes. They are an act of Congress.
5. Eric Holder was found in contempt after he turned over thousands of documents but didn't turn over others that were claimed to be protected under executive privilege. They claimed the privilege for all documents after a certain date.
6. The Holder contempt citation has been settled. You might try keeping up with the actual news.
7. Barr has refused to turn over any documents. That is quite different. Statements to the FBI are not covered by executive privilege because the President is not in the room and the FBI are not giving advice to the President. That makes it quite a bit different.

By the way, the Holder contempt citation and subsequent court rulings puts Barr on very shaky legal ground in the claims of executive privilege. The court found that courts are the proper place for disputes between Congress and the Executive branch. The court ruled that the executive branch can't claim a blanket executive over all documents. The court also ruled that only those documents that are related to a pre-decison by the President or deliberative about a Presidential action are protected.

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Well, hope springs eternal especially with Democrats hoping America will go into a recession. That’s why I can’t think of any Democrat as a patriot. That’s why I never vote for a Democrat, EVER!!!!!

I point out that Trump's actions could lead to a downturn and you claim that means I am hoping America will go into recession? I didn't realize that Democrats were the ones that made Trump do idiotic things. Do they have some kind of ray that they use on Trump to make him stupid?

How confident of you to believe there’s such a WEAK CASE before even the IG report gets delivered and Barr’s investigation gets up to speed. The last IG report hardly presented a weak case against McCabe, Strzok & Page.

ROFLMAO. Which IG report is that? The one that doesn't exist yet?

What FACTS are your HOPES based on? I think there’s a truck load of facts for me to base my hopes on.

I am waiting for you to even provide a shovel full of facts.

Only in leftist lala land would a coup-de-qua to prevent a candidate from becoming President of the United States and frame him for an invented crime after he was elected President be a “civil case.” It sure as hell looks like mocho felonies to me friend!!!!!

This conspiracy theory is so outlandish one has to wonder if you are sane. The Democrats purposely got Trump elected to make the conspiracy work?

I’m not worried that McCabe’s name and prosecution won’t come up again. There’s an investigation into the whole banana just starting and McCabe may well be charged with more multiple crimes. He’s likely being squeezed at president to cop a plea to drop a dime on the rest of the gang..

McCabe's name will come up again. He announced he will be filing his civil suit for wrongful termination. A case he probably will win because he can point to all the comments by Trump against him before he was fired.

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Holder refused to deliver documents into Fast & Furious where an American border petrol guard was murdered. Barr was held in contempt for refusing to illegally deliver a totally un-redacted Muller report to the entire Congress which is a crime. The two cases are apples & oranges!!!!!!

Background:

On April 19, 2019, Chairman Nadler issued a subpoena for the full Mueller report and key underlying evidence. Attorney General Barr had an obligation to provide those materials by May 1.


If we follow your logic, since Holder delivered thousands of documents then the hundreds he didn't deliver were not worth a contempt citation. At least in Holder's case the claim was made that the documents not released concerned discussions about how to deal with the fall out so it was possible to claim they were covered under Executive privilege. In Barr's case the underlying evidence is in no way related to any discussions about Executive branch response. Apples and Oranges but Holder had more of a case than Barr does and Holder still didn't win in court when it came to withholding all the documents.

[Poor Richard Saunders]

All of them! You know different because?

I would say, the fact that Natalia Veselniskaya has been indicted in the US and currently is in Russia would point to her not being an FBI asset. But maybe that's because up is up in my world.