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    Default Putin says North Korea wants to denuclearize with 'security guarantees'

    Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that North Korea needs "security guarantees" from several countries before denuclearizing.

    “They only need guarantees about their security. That’s it. All of us together need to think about this,” Putin told reporters following a summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, according to Reuters.

    Putin added that security guarantees from the U.S. likely would not be enough to get North Korea to denuclearize, saying that support also needs to come from countries including Russia, China, Japan and South Korea.

    "I’m deeply convinced that if we get to a situation when some kind of security guarantees are needed from one party, in this case for North Korea, that it won’t be possible to get by without international guarantees. It’s unlikely that any agreements between two countries will be enough," Putin said.
    He added that the guarantees would need to confirm North Korea's sovereignty and be legally binding, according to Reuters.

    Putin, who met with Kim in the Russian city Vladivostok, also said he was "pleased" with the talks.

    “We are all pleased with the outcome of the talks — both I and my colleagues,” Putin said, according to CNN. “Chairman Kim Jong Un is a fairly open person, leading a free discussion on all issues that were on the agenda.”
    https://thehill.com/policy/internati...ity-guarantees

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    Putin giving some diplomatic cover to Kim -but still this is helpful. China is still the big problem for sanction violations - but Russia can play a helpful roll
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    Putin is in Mr. Nice Guy mode. He’s out to impress China, South Korea and the world with a serious meeting in Vladivostok. Here’s what Putin wants:

    A cash-generating pipeline. Business is on his mind. Putin is lining up deals with North Korea for when sanctions are lifted. Most of all, Putin wants to build a massive liquid natural gas pipeline from Vladivostok down to South Korea. South Korea is the world’s second-largest importer of LNG and it all comes by ship. The catch? The best pipeline route goes through a corner of North Korea. The deal has been under discussion since the last Russia-North Korea summit in 2011 but it’s no go until sanctions lift.

    To Kiss Up to South Korea. South Korean President Moon spent three days in Moscow last year talking with Putin about nine major initiatives on everything from trade to the Arctic. For both Russia and South Korea, the long, jolly meeting was a diplomatic slap to China, who freaked out when South Korea deployed THAAD air defense missiles in 2017. Moon wants dialogue with North Korea and Putin is happy to oblige.

    International Attention. Putin loves these summits and meetings. Don’t forget that Putin is a bit of an outcast. Russia no longer attends the G8 economic forum because the country’s economy is too small, because of the annexation of Crimea and about a hundred other evil acts. Russia was in the six-party talks with North Korea, but those were shelved years ago. Hosting Kim puts Putin on the world stage he craves.

    Leverage with China. Putin knows Xi Jinping is watching. Dealing with a rising China is no picnic for Putin, either. Russia’s economy is barely 10 percent of China’s. Russia holds a slight military edge over the country but China is catching up fast. Fawning over North Korea has been a China-Russia game since Mao and Khrushchev did it back in the 1950s. Talking with Kim might hold possibilities.

    Peace and Quiet. Russia – and the world – really feared Trump might go to war before Kim stopped missile tests back in November 2017. Remember, North Korea’s missiles can also reach Russia. Russia guards the 11-mile land border to keep North Korean refugees out. A return to instability in North Korea would be bad for everyone all around. Putin knows the U.S. could whomp North Korea militarily, and he doesn’t want that going on next door.

    Denuclearization. Yes, Putin wants North Korea to denuclearize. Putin has been keenly involved in efforts to get the country to do that all along. So far, Russia has held firm allowing the U.N. Security Council, where Russia’s a permanent member, to pass harsh sanctions on Kin Jong Un’s regime. President Trump spent a good portion of their 2018 Helsinki meeting briefing Putin on the Singapore summit. Just last week, U.S. Special Representative for North Korea Steve Biegun had a “constructive” meeting in Moscow where he talked with Russian diplomats about denuking and the Russia-North Korea summit plans.

    Should Americans worry about Putin causing trouble? Not yet. If Putin wanted to send secret military aid to North Korea, he doesn’t need a summit to do it. The one big concern might be increased cyber cooperation. Russia has already laid a fiber optic line into North Korea under the Friendship bridge. Kim is keeping his big army and stunning cyber weapons no matter what.

    Improbable as it sounds, Russia could actually assist with the process of denuclearization when Kim is ready. Rail cars full of uranium have to roll out of North Korea sometime. Russia has experience with denuclearization from the 1990s.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/rebe...tin-kim-summit

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you probably wear Putins used condoms in your hair huh
    thanks for a valued opinion on Putin /Kim /denuclearization - such clarity of thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Putin giving some diplomatic cover to Kim -but still this is helpful. China is still the big problem for sanction violations - but Russia can play a helpful roll
    Trust, but verify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Putin giving some diplomatic cover to Kim -but still this is helpful. China is still the big problem for sanction violations - but Russia can play a helpful roll
    Probably wants to sell him some S-400s!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you probably wear Putins used condoms in your hair huh
    What a charmer you are, a real arsehole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Putin is in Mr. Nice Guy mode. He’s out to impress China, South Korea and the world with a serious meeting in Vladivostok. Here’s what Putin wants:

    A cash-generating pipeline. Business is on his mind. Putin is lining up deals with North Korea for when sanctions are lifted. Most of all, Putin wants to build a massive liquid natural gas pipeline from Vladivostok down to South Korea. South Korea is the world’s second-largest importer of LNG and it all comes by ship. The catch? The best pipeline route goes through a corner of North Korea. The deal has been under discussion since the last Russia-North Korea summit in 2011 but it’s no go until sanctions lift.

    To Kiss Up to South Korea. South Korean President Moon spent three days in Moscow last year talking with Putin about nine major initiatives on everything from trade to the Arctic. For both Russia and South Korea, the long, jolly meeting was a diplomatic slap to China, who freaked out when South Korea deployed THAAD air defense missiles in 2017. Moon wants dialogue with North Korea and Putin is happy to oblige.

    International Attention. Putin loves these summits and meetings. Don’t forget that Putin is a bit of an outcast. Russia no longer attends the G8 economic forum because the country’s economy is too small, because of the annexation of Crimea and about a hundred other evil acts. Russia was in the six-party talks with North Korea, but those were shelved years ago. Hosting Kim puts Putin on the world stage he craves.

    Leverage with China. Putin knows Xi Jinping is watching. Dealing with a rising China is no picnic for Putin, either. Russia’s economy is barely 10 percent of China’s. Russia holds a slight military edge over the country but China is catching up fast. Fawning over North Korea has been a China-Russia game since Mao and Khrushchev did it back in the 1950s. Talking with Kim might hold possibilities.

    Peace and Quiet. Russia – and the world – really feared Trump might go to war before Kim stopped missile tests back in November 2017. Remember, North Korea’s missiles can also reach Russia. Russia guards the 11-mile land border to keep North Korean refugees out. A return to instability in North Korea would be bad for everyone all around. Putin knows the U.S. could whomp North Korea militarily, and he doesn’t want that going on next door.

    Denuclearization. Yes, Putin wants North Korea to denuclearize. Putin has been keenly involved in efforts to get the country to do that all along. So far, Russia has held firm allowing the U.N. Security Council, where Russia’s a permanent member, to pass harsh sanctions on Kin Jong Un’s regime. President Trump spent a good portion of their 2018 Helsinki meeting briefing Putin on the Singapore summit. Just last week, U.S. Special Representative for North Korea Steve Biegun had a “constructive” meeting in Moscow where he talked with Russian diplomats about denuking and the Russia-North Korea summit plans.

    Should Americans worry about Putin causing trouble? Not yet. If Putin wanted to send secret military aid to North Korea, he doesn’t need a summit to do it. The one big concern might be increased cyber cooperation. Russia has already laid a fiber optic line into North Korea under the Friendship bridge. Kim is keeping his big army and stunning cyber weapons no matter what.

    Improbable as it sounds, Russia could actually assist with the process of denuclearization when Kim is ready. Rail cars full of uranium have to roll out of North Korea sometime. Russia has experience with denuclearization from the 1990s.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/rebe...tin-kim-summit
    The pipeline route would run down the entire east coast of North Korea, hardly what you might call a 'bit'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Putin says North Korea wants to denuclearize with 'security guarantees'
    just shut the fuck up Ruskie troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    just shut the fuck up Ruskie troll
    This is what the left aspires to be. And what the left lets pass as "intellect". WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    This is what the left aspires to be. And what the left lets pass as "intellect". WTF.
    go suck Putin's cock hon

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    go suck Putin's cock hon
    It really is worth repeating: "This is what the left aspires to be. And what the left lets pass as "intellect". WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    The pipeline route would run down the entire east coast of North Korea, hardly what you might call a 'bit'.
    is that so? NK really could be an economic power house like the south as well
    i personally think kim is terrified of opening up though to the west-that's the end of his regime

    Leverage with China. Putin knows Xi Jinping is watching. Dealing with a rising China is no picnic for Putin, either. Russia’s economy is barely 10 percent of China’s. Russia holds a slight military edge over the country but China is catching up fast. Fawning over North Korea has been a China-Russia game since Mao and Khrushchev did it back in the 1950s. Talking with Kim might hold possibilities.
    ^this is wrong too -as China and Russia are no longer military antagonists

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    is that so? NK really could be an economic power house like the south as well
    i personally think kim is terrified of opening up though to the west-that's the end of his regime


    ^this is wrong too -as China and Russia are no longer military antagonists
    He's not stupid, he's knows what happened to dictators like Nicole Ceaușescu, Pol Pot, Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. Maybe the Russians can offer him asylum when the jig is up?

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