Goodbye, Seattle

[Into the Night]

Both. High numbers are a good thing;

Irrational. You must clear your paradox. Arguing both sides of a paradox is irrational.

so are large construction cranes for housing, businesses, infrastructure, etc….

Cranes are not people.

Both are taking places in Seattle.

Irrational statement. You must clear your paradox first.

That is also a completely different economic model you’re using there.

Again, you know this. Much like you know the argument you’re desperately trying to validity was baseless and frankly stupid.

Irrelevant. Cranes are not people. They are not a sign of economic development. If anything, they are a sign of speculation. I simply used China as an example. There are others, such as what happened to Las Vegas.

It's not my fault you are making a false equivalence here.

[Into the Night]

This coming from a moron that fell for a fluff piece from a Sinclair station

No, that's what generated this thread, but I live here. I see it happening. I've known this to be a problem long before the so-called fluff piece. What it describes is actually true.

[JPF]

Irrational. You must clear your paradox. Arguing both sides of a paradox is irrational.
Cranes are not people.
Irrational statement. You must clear your paradox first.

No Spock. It’s not a paradox. Your pronouncement that it is only serves to make your argument that much more flimsy. Having blood and oxygen is good, right? Having food and water is good, right? Having people and construction is good, right? Of course.

Irrelevant. Cranes are not people. They are not a sign of economic development. If anything, they are a sign of speculation. I simply used China as an example. There are others, such as what happened to Las Vegas.

Speculation is a bet on a positive outcome. You don’t bet on red if you don’t think the marble will land on it. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it does not.

However, adding capacity to an existing office is not “speculation”, it’s an investment. Building a new multi-million dollar campus? That may be speculation.

You really are not thinking about what you’re writing very much.

It's not my fault you are making a false equivalence here.

As I am not making any false equivalences…perhaps you should stick to subjects you know more about this. Clearly, this is not one of them.

[Into the Night]

Seattle wasn't bad about a year or so ago when I went there...

It's really bad now.

Homeless encampments now line either side of the freeway like mini cities as you emerge from the Mt Baker tunnel. The line I-5 on all sides and are underneath it through the downtown area. 2nd ave has become much more dangerous due to the numbers of homeless camps in the area. Practically every park downtown is filled with tents.

When offered work, they refuse it. Crime is roaming more and more unchecked through the streets. The drugs, the crazies, the shootings, the crime...it's all there and it's all gotten a LOT worse.

[Into the Night]

Seattle is the fastest growing city in the US

No. You are chanting.

[katzgar]

No, that's what generated this thread, but I live here. I see it happening. I've known this to be a problem long before the so-called fluff piece. What it describes is actually true.

you mean the part about Seattle being the fastest growing city in the US? Yeah that is true.

[Into the Night]

I think it’s just having a different opinion than yours. My friends and relatives love Seattle, they still live there.

Where do they live in Seattle? Note there is no personal information being requested here.

[Into the Night]

No Spock. It’s not a paradox.

Yes it is.
1) more people are good
2) more people are bad

Which is it, dude? You keep saying both. That's irrational.

Your pronouncement that it is only serves to make your argument that much more flimsy.

No. A paradox is not a valid argument. They are fallacies.

Having blood and oxygen is good, right? Having food and water is good, right? Having people and construction is good, right? Of course.

Irrelevant.

Speculation is a bet on a positive outcome.

True. Does that guarantee the outcome? Does that have anything to do with population?

You don’t bet on red if you don’t think the marble will land on it. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it does not.

Obviously you are illiterate in probability mathematics as well. Stay outta 'Vegas.

However, adding capacity to an existing office is not “speculation”, it’s an investment. Building a new multi-million dollar campus? That may be speculation.

They are BOTH speculation. All investments are speculations.

You really are not thinking about what you’re writing very much.

No, you are locked in a paradox, you are trying to make false equivalencies, and you are losing context while trying to redirect to various strawman arguments.

As I am not making any false equivalences…

Yes you are. You are equivocating crane activity with increasing population.

perhaps you should stick to subjects you know more about this.

I do know about this. I live here.

Clearly, this is not one of them.

So...someone that lives in the Seattle area doesn't know anything about the Seattle area, right? Gawd.

[Into the Night]

you mean the part about Seattle being the fastest growing city in the US? Yeah that is true.

No. You're chanting still.

[Phantasmal]

Where do they live in Seattle? Note there is no personal information being requested here.

Why does that matter? Lol My nephew lives in the University district. The others I’m not familiar with their area, just plugged their address into the GPS.

[JPF]

Yes it is.
1) more people are good
2) more people are bad

Which is it, dude? You keep saying both. That's irrational.

No. A paradox is not a valid argument. They are fallacies.

Irrelevant.

True. Does that guarantee the outcome? Does that have anything to do with population?

Obviously you are illiterate in probability mathematics as well. Stay outta 'Vegas.

They are BOTH speculation. All investments are speculations.

No, you are locked in a paradox, you are trying to make false equivalencies, and you are losing context while trying to redirect to various strawman arguments.

Yes you are. You are equivocating crane activity with increasing population.

I do know about this. I live here.

So...someone that lives in the Seattle area doesn't know anything about the Seattle area, right? Gawd.

Just to answer the last part since it is all that matters:

From your posts on this thread…it is clear that you do not know what is going on there. Your thoughts are your own but the objective data has rendered them inaccurate.

[CharacterAssassin]

LA is being overrun by Mexicans. The entire West Coast will be going down together.

Nah. LA has always had Mexicans. It's the 2nd largest Mexican City in the world, and it's just fine that way. It's not overrun at all.

Since you love paying Mexicans to choke you while you beat off in the shower, you'd love it here, putita borracha.

[Bill]

LA is being overrun by Mexicans. The entire West Coast will be going down together.

When is the last time you visited LA??

[katzgar]

No. You're chanting still.

And I'll keep chanting till it gets through your thick moronic skull

[Into the Night]

Why does that matter? Lol My nephew lives in the University district. The others I’m not familiar with their area, just plugged their address into the GPS.

I take it he's going to the University there?