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    And they understand income inequality, and some are even doing something about it.

    https://wtvr.com/2019/04/24/disney-h...aid-employees/

    Just days after calling the pay of Disney’s top brass “insane,” the granddaughter of company co-founder Roy Disney wrote an opinion piece in the Washington Post, in which she acknowledged she “struck a nerve with a Twitter thread about wage inequality at the Walt Disney Co.”

    “I believe that Disney could well lead the way, if its leaders so chose, to a more decent, humane way of doing business,” she wrote in a piece published Tuesday.

    She proposes the company put aside half of the bonuses its executives earn, distributing that to the bottom 10% of Disney’s 200,000 employees.

    According to a regulatory filing, six of Disney’s top executives, including CEO Bob Iger, received stock awards and options worth a combined $62 million last year. That doesn’t include the additional bonuses — and potentially millions of dollars more — earned by lower-tier executives at the media and theme park conglomerate.

    “Besides, at the pay levels we are talking about, an executive giving up half his bonus has zero effect on his quality of life,” she writes. “For the people at the bottom, it could mean a ticket out of poverty or debt. It could offer access to decent health care or an education for a child.”
    “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.” Leo Tolstoy

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    Well done. This case is particularly good because if they do what they propose, it would be out of personal free-will, not government coercion. This is why capitalism will always be the more humane system.
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    I am struggling with this moronic talking point "income inequality." How would there NOT be income inequality? What is the argument? That everyone should make the same pay? Why?

    It's another of those simplistic leftist meme's that have ZERO meaning and do NOTHING to improve the lives of those the left proclaims they are the champions of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    Well done. This case is particularly good because if they do what they propose, it would be out of personal free-will, not government coercion. This is why capitalism will always be the more humane system.
    Lots of organizations do not and will not do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am struggling with this moronic talking point "income inequality." How would there NOT be income inequality? What is the argument? That everyone should make the same pay? Why?

    It's another of those simplistic leftist meme's that have ZERO meaning and do NOTHING to improve the lives of those the left proclaims they are the champions of.
    Everybody should be able to survive.

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    The world will survive a liveable wage of $18

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    NBC Nightly News did a brief segment on this tonight. We seem to have forgotten the concept of noblesse oblige, but this lady has resurrected it. Good for her. Disney really should grab this and run with it. It will make them even more popular. It's outstanding PR. And maybe, just maybe, it will spark other corporations into doing the same. I'd love to see investigative reporters digging into it as well. Say Disney claims that it's giving all of its employees "living wages" because of this publicity. It would be good to have follow-ups a year or so later to make sure that they really did. Maybe the investigative reporters could do something more worthwhile than repeating the Toadstool's endless moronic tweets. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by climate+equality View Post
    Everybody should be able to survive.
    Solid take

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    And they understand income inequality, and some are even doing something about it.

    https://wtvr.com/2019/04/24/disney-h...aid-employees/

    Just days after calling the pay of Disney’s top brass “insane,” the granddaughter of company co-founder Roy Disney wrote an opinion piece in the Washington Post, in which she acknowledged she “struck a nerve with a Twitter thread about wage inequality at the Walt Disney Co.”

    “I believe that Disney could well lead the way, if its leaders so chose, to a more decent, humane way of doing business,” she wrote in a piece published Tuesday.

    She proposes the company put aside half of the bonuses its executives earn, distributing that to the bottom 10% of Disney’s 200,000 employees.

    According to a regulatory filing, six of Disney’s top executives, including CEO Bob Iger, received stock awards and options worth a combined $62 million last year. That doesn’t include the additional bonuses — and potentially millions of dollars more — earned by lower-tier executives at the media and theme park conglomerate.

    “Besides, at the pay levels we are talking about, an executive giving up half his bonus has zero effect on his quality of life,” she writes. “For the people at the bottom, it could mean a ticket out of poverty or debt. It could offer access to decent health care or an education for a child.”
    AND there is abuse for shit wages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Fapper View Post
    And they understand income inequality, and some are even doing something about it.

    https://wtvr.com/2019/04/24/disney-h...aid-employees/

    Just days after calling the pay of Disney’s top brass “insane,” the granddaughter of company co-founder Roy Disney wrote an opinion piece in the Washington Post, in which she acknowledged she “struck a nerve with a Twitter thread about wage inequality at the Walt Disney Co.”

    “I believe that Disney could well lead the way, if its leaders so chose, to a more decent, humane way of doing business,” she wrote in a piece published Tuesday.

    She proposes the company put aside half of the bonuses its executives earn, distributing that to the bottom 10% of Disney’s 200,000 employees.

    According to a regulatory filing, six of Disney’s top executives, including CEO Bob Iger, received stock awards and options worth a combined $62 million last year. That doesn’t include the additional bonuses — and potentially millions of dollars more — earned by lower-tier executives at the media and theme park conglomerate.

    “Besides, at the pay levels we are talking about, an executive giving up half his bonus has zero effect on his quality of life,” she writes. “For the people at the bottom, it could mean a ticket out of poverty or debt. It could offer access to decent health care or an education for a child.”
    Fucking liberals. Soooo, what about the 11% and above, who have worked and earned their way up the ladder? Oh well, fuck 'em.
    Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent

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    Quote Originally Posted by climate+equality View Post
    Everybody should be able to survive.
    It is everybody's responsibility to get some experience or learn some job skills that make them valuable enough to deserve a decent salary. Then, it is their responsibility to live a life within their income limits.

    It is not the employer's responsibility to pay somebody with no skills a "livable wage" so that person can buy a home, have a family, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am struggling with this moronic talking point "income inequality." How would there NOT be income inequality? What is the argument? That everyone should make the same pay? Why?

    It's another of those simplistic leftist meme's that have ZERO meaning and do NOTHING to improve the lives of those the left proclaims they are the champions of.
    This kind of stupid shit always reminds me of this clip from The Andy Griffith Show. Substitute, "citizen's arrest", for, "income inequality", or, "social justice", or any number of idiotic leftist loonery parroted by libs. I guess the only difference is, in this episode, Gomer Pyle actually had a valid point. Libs rarely do.

    Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    Well done. This case is particularly good because if they do what they propose, it would be out of personal free-will, not government coercion. This is why capitalism will always be the more humane system.
    But it is not the result of capitalism. It is closer to Democratic Socialism the system you hate. Capitalism is based on self interests, and greed. Probably why Jefferson, and others, opposed it.
    “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.” Leo Tolstoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    This kind of stupid shit always reminds me of this clip from The Andy Griffith Show. Substitute, "citizen's arrest", for, "income inequality", or, "social justice", or any number of idiotic leftist loonery parroted by libs. I guess the only difference is, in this episode, Gomer Pyle actually had a valid point. Libs rarely do.

    As I have pointed out before, and f**king idiots are too stupid to understand, the troubles brought about by the hoarding of wealth by the few has been recognized by Plato, Christ, the Founders, and now by many in this country. The only point you people grasp is that there will always be income inequality, and rightly so. However, that does not justify the incomes of CEO's increasing by 937% while that of the one that does the actual labor only increased by 11.2%.
    “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.” Leo Tolstoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It is everybody's responsibility to get some experience or learn some job skills that make them valuable enough to deserve a decent salary. Then, it is their responsibility to live a life within their income limits.

    It is not the employer's responsibility to pay somebody with no skills a "livable wage" so that person can buy a home, have a family, etc.
    I assume by experience you mean work and by skills you mean education. Some people cannot afford education and therefore cannot obtain work. Almost nobody is saying everybody is entitled to buy a house and have children.

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