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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Obama ordered an investigation of Trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Unlike Mueller and Comey, "Bill Barr and Robert Mueller have been close friends for 30 years, from the Justice Department to family weddings and the Bible study attended by both of their wives."

    So why doesn't that fact have RWNJs showing Mueller a little more respect? You guys claimed that the so-called Mueller-Comey friendship would cause the investigation to be biased.
    Mullet & Comey have known each other for quite some time. They're thick as thieves.
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    OOOPS!!

    Source: Law & Crime


    Conservative Lawyers: ‘Framers of the Constitution’ Would Say There’s Evidence of Impeachable Offenses


    The reaction to Special Counsel Robert Mueller‘s report continues. While Democrats have mainly been the only ones calling for President Donald Trump‘s impeachment, a group of conservative and libertarian lawyers co-founded by Trump nemesis George Conway released a statement on Tuesday saying that the framers of the U.S. Constitution would believe there was evidence of impeachable offenses.

    The Checks and Balances group, as Law&Crime noted before, was started to “protect constitutional principles that are being undermined by the statements and actions of this president,” namely the rule of law. Jonathan H. Adler, Donald B. Ayer, John B. Bellinger, III, George T. Conway III, Carrie F. Cordero, Stuart M. Gerson, Peter D. Keisler, Marisa C. Maleck, Alan Charles Raul, Paul Rosenzweig, J.W. Verret all signed their names on a statement that said Mueller’s report was a “significant milestone in the civic life of the country.”

    -snip-

    “The facts contained in the report reveal that the President engaged in persistent conduct intended to derail, undermine and obstruct ongoing federal investigations,” they said. “In light of the longstanding Department of Justice legal opinion that a sitting President cannot be indicted, we view it as irrelevant whether there is a prosecutorial recommendation that the crime of obstruction has been committed.”

    -snip-

    “We believe the framers of the Constitution would have viewed the totality of this conduct as evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors,” the statement said. “Accordingly, Congress, which carries its own constitutional oversight responsibilities, should conduct further investigation.”


    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...able-offenses/
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Once again, Mueller didn't go looking for a crime, he was appointed by a Trump Justice Dept, picked by a Trump appointee, to investigate Russians influence in the election, and I don't know how it could be a fishing expedition given the number of indictments and guilty pleas he attained in just two years
    LOL!!!!!
    Yeah sure. Mullet conveniently left out all the evidence of the Clinton connection in the Russia meddling. They were even kind enough to give her a heads up during the campaign. They didn't bother giving one to Trump. His whole report is all about Russia meddling as far as it concerned the Trump campaign. Swamp hack.
    Well, now it's half-time and it's finally Hillbag's turn for an investigation. Let it roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You guys claimed that the so-called Mueller-Comey friendship would cause the investigation to be biased.
    I don't recall claiming that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    OOOPS!!
    How many times a day does some liberal breathlessly inform the world that this time...



     







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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Once again, Mueller didn't go looking for a crime, he was appointed by a Trump Justice Dept, picked by a Trump appointee, to investigate Russians influence in the election, and I don't know how it could be a fishing expedition given the number of indictments and guilty pleas he attained in just two years
    that's a grotesque minimization of Trump's chartter. it was about getting Trump
    According to its authorizing document, which was signed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on May 17, 2017, the investigation's scope included allegations that there were links or coordination between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Russian governmen as well as "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spec...%E2%80%932019)
    all American indictments ( except some of Manaforts's) were only process crimes.
    He uncovered the Internet Research Agency -whoopdedoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Unlike Mueller and Comey, "Bill Barr and Robert Mueller have been close friends for 30 years, from the Justice Department to family weddings and the Bible study attended by both of their wives."

    So why doesn't that fact have RWNJs showing Mueller a little more respect? You guys claimed that the so-called Mueller-Comey friendship would cause the investigation to be biased.
    Newsflash lol.

    Your president is one of the few highly placed true ‘outsiders’ in DC. Practically all of these people know each other and are long time friends in many instances. Comey-Mullet are in the latter category.

    Barr and Mullet have both worked high up in government for decades so of course they’ve crossed paths before and it’s unsurprising that their wives are well acquainted. Some of us call DC a Swamp for a reason lol?

    My problem with Comey-Mullet is that Comey *leaked with the intention* than an SP be appointed AND THAT it turned out to be his long time friend and associate Robert Mullet.

    Wow, what a ‘fortuitous’ turn of events.

    AND THAT Mullet was a former FBI Director himself and was interviewed for the job by the very man he was appointed to investigate. Comey had to be feeling pretty cozy by now. Trump, not so much.

    And yes, myself and others complained it about because it was starting to resemble a stacked-deck. Not one single person recused from the whole affair including Rosenstein—who signed off on some of the fricking warrants used to spy on Carter Page. The only people who left the investigation were forced to when their corruption was brought to light.

    They only left the investigation because they were caught. That bears repeating.

    For two years, I’ve been saying the investigation needs to be investigated by someone besides congress. Like an AG. An SP would be even better but I’ll take what I can get.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I only cited what Wiki said. I'm unaware of any compelling reason to place much credence in Comey's characterization of Crowdstrike's involvement and his blithe acceptance of their findings.
    Perhaps your reading comprehension skills are lacking.

    The FBI requested, but did not receive, physical access to the DNC servers. The FBI did obtain copies of the servers and all the information on them, as well as access to forensics from CrowdStrike, a third-party cybersecurity company that reviewed the DNC servers. In testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Comey said that access through Crowdstrike was an "appropriate substitute" and termed the firm a "highly respected private company."
    The FBI would have been able to do their own analysis with the copies. That would be combined with the Crowdstrike analysis.
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    Comey, Obama, Hillary and the rest of the anti American law breaking has-beens are all going to answer to a higher authority.
    In good time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    It seems you didn't read the Act..
    ") Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system. "
    Dumbass; she wasn't ALLOWED to do anything. She secretly used the server to avoid public scrutiny. NO wonder you're a Democrat; you're stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    So, it clearly wasn't a violation of the act by Clinton. It is the responsibility of the Agency to ensure preservation.
    So clearly you're a willful idiot. Yay you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    And you failed to show how e and f apply.
    e requires that you show Clinton knew information was classified and transferred it to a person not authorized to receive it. There is no evidence to support either of those requirements of the law.
    f requires that you show that Clinton had lawful possession and the information be lost, stolen or destroyed or removed from it's proper place of custody or delivered to someone unauthorized to receive it.
    WRONG; I don't have to show anything. Clinton used a PRIVATE unsecured server to conduct her business, LIED that none of the e-mails on that server were classified and then PRETENDED to not know what a classified document looks like.

    Of course, you're an idiot and a partisan hack so you don't give a shit about our laws when it comes to Democrats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The problem is you can't argue that the server was unauthorized and then argue that the information on it was lawfully possessed.
    The real problem here is I am arguing with a hyper partisan, dishonest, willful idiot on steroids who doesn't give a shit about facts or the law when it comes to Democrats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The law will always require evidence to prosecute. There is more evidence Trump obstructed justice than Clinton violated any of the laws you cited.
    Another laughably stupid statement. The highest law officer in the USA thinks you're a clueless idiot and he is right. STFU you moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    So why doesn't that fact have RWNJs showing Mueller a little more respect? You guys claimed that the so-called Mueller-Comey friendship would cause the investigation to be biased.
    That's an easy one to answer; because based on Mueller's investigation and report, he was a hack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    OOOPS!!

    Source: Law & Crime


    Conservative Lawyers: ‘Framers of the Constitution’ Would Say There’s Evidence of Impeachable Offenses


    The reaction to Special Counsel Robert Mueller‘s report continues. While Democrats have mainly been the only ones calling for President Donald Trump‘s impeachment, a group of conservative and libertarian lawyers co-founded by Trump nemesis George Conway released a statement on Tuesday saying that the framers of the U.S. Constitution would believe there was evidence of impeachable offenses.

    The Checks and Balances group, as Law&Crime noted before, was started to “protect constitutional principles that are being undermined by the statements and actions of this president,” namely the rule of law. Jonathan H. Adler, Donald B. Ayer, John B. Bellinger, III, George T. Conway III, Carrie F. Cordero, Stuart M. Gerson, Peter D. Keisler, Marisa C. Maleck, Alan Charles Raul, Paul Rosenzweig, J.W. Verret all signed their names on a statement that said Mueller’s report was a “significant milestone in the civic life of the country.”

    -snip-

    “The facts contained in the report reveal that the President engaged in persistent conduct intended to derail, undermine and obstruct ongoing federal investigations,” they said. “In light of the longstanding Department of Justice legal opinion that a sitting President cannot be indicted, we view it as irrelevant whether there is a prosecutorial recommendation that the crime of obstruction has been committed.”

    -snip-

    “We believe the framers of the Constitution would have viewed the totality of this conduct as evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors,” the statement said. “Accordingly, Congress, which carries its own constitutional oversight responsibilities, should conduct further investigation.”


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    Another massive pile of lunatic bile and wishful thinking you mentally retarded hack.

    NO ONE got fired. NO ONE destroyed evidence. NO ONE refused to cooperate. NO ONE shut down the investigation NO ONE chose not to release the entire report. NO ONE exercised executive privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Perhaps your reading comprehension skills are lacking.
    More likely you are mentally retarded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The FBI would have been able to do their own analysis with the copies. That would be combined with the Crowdstrike analysis.
    Moron.....The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied, Director James Comey told lawmakers on Tuesday.

    Yeah folks, that makes it A OK. Comey is up to his eyeballs in corruption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Perhaps your reading comprehension skills are lacking.
    Perhaps not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The FBI would have been able to do their own analysis with the copies. That would be combined with the Crowdstrike analysis.
    As previously stated in response to my old friend Rune, I'm unaware of any compelling reason to place much credence in Comey's characterization of Crowdstrike's involvement and his blithe acceptance of their findings.

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