Hillary did lie about it not being a terror attack. her tweets to her kid in the middle of the night said just that -but Mike Morrell cam along and clouded the issue ( i seriously forget all the machinations -believe it or not)
but I never really blamed Hilary for Bengazi -too many people had a hand in it, including Ambassador Stevens.
I DO BLAME HILLARY for making Qadaffi a 'military target" assassinating him by Predator
( causing him to flee the convoy)
Libya has been in a state of civil wars since then - another going on now.
Hilary was the driving force of talking Obama into bombing Qadaffi - far surpassing the UN authority for a
"no fly"zone. Libya remains a failed terrorist infested state because of it to this day
Clinton perjured himself "I did not have sex with that woman"It seems the GOP impeached Clinton for obstruction with no underlying crime. Did the laws change since then? Or are you admitting that the Republicans were only being political when they impeached Clinton for obstruction with no underlying crime?
Unlike yourself -a complete partisan hack- I opposed Impeachment on Bill Clinton as well on the grounds is was a picayune charge. Just like Obstruction ( not proven here) would be picayune without the underlying crime of conspiracy (collusion)
go fuck yourselfIt seems you prefer to eat the shit being served to you by RW commentators. How does it taste? If only you could think for yourself.
WTF would I want to read it? It's slanted from a prosecutorial POV -it's written to politically damage Trump, even though the lack of a conspiracy by ANYONE in TrumpCo is why the investigation was startedPerhaps you could read the report. Just read the Introductions and Executive summaries if you want to discuss this with any intelligence. Otherwise you are simply an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
( it was not started for Obstruction crap Mueller found -one giant large process crime only of unproven obstruction)
buzz off. I'm quite aware of the cabal of Rosenstein /Mueller / and Comey that all had it out for Trump.It is amazing how little you know about Mueller's purpose. You might try crawling out from under your rock and reading page 1, paragraph 5 of the report.
Recall Lisa Page said by the time Mueller was appointed they STILL had NO EVIDENCE of "wrongdoing" by TrumpCo.
Wait till the Deep State Creeps ( Brennan et all) get their reckoning -this little nothingness of Obstruction
will be a blip kept alive only by the Dems and the media.
Meanwhile we have the "manufactured border crisis" and much unfinished business by Congress due to their Obstructions - real damage to the country because of Dems
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I don't know how you were diverted / You were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted / No one alerted you
So, you simply ignore your own writings and run away from facts.
Kushner, Gates and Manafort were part of the Trump campaign. They deleted relevant communications which would be destroying evidence.
Evidence was destroyed by members of Trump's campaign. Your attempt to divert to something else only shows you to be unable to support your argument.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
Really?
Arthur Andersen LLP v. United States,
544 U.S. 696, isn't a court ruling
United States v. Gordon, 710 F.3d 1124, 1151
(I 0th Cir. 2013) isn't a court ruling
United States v. Pasha, 797 F .3d 1122, 1132 isn't a court ruling?
The report cites multiple court rulings and laws when it lays out the case for obstruction and why the arguments you now parrot are legally unsupported.
If only you were able to read beyond a 2nd grade level......
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
^ ROFL @ "deleting relevant communication" -Hillary deleted, Bleachbit and hammered her cellphones!
You seriously lack awareness of the the Espionage Act ( gross negligence) that does not require intent
Truth Detector (04-23-2019)
ROFL are you joking??
Your buddy Andrew Weissman was overturned 9-0 by SCOTUS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur..._United_States
In a unanimous decision by the Supreme Court, Arthur Andersen's conviction was overturned. Chief Justice William Rehnquist wrote the opinion for the court, and was joined by all associate justices.
In the court's view, the instructions allowed the jury to convict Andersen without proving that the firm knew it had broken the law or that there had been a link to any official proceeding that prohibited the destruction of documents. The instructions were so vague that they "simply failed to convey the requisite consciousness of wrongdoing", Rehnquist wrote. "Indeed, it is striking how little culpability the instructions required." Rehnquist's opinion also expressed grave skepticism at the government's definition of "corrupt persuasion"—persuasion with an improper purpose even without knowing an act is unlawful. "Only persons conscious of wrongdoing can be said to 'knowingly corruptly persuade,' " he wrote.
Truth Detector (04-23-2019)
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Darth Omar (04-23-2019), Truth Detector (04-23-2019)
Once again, Mueller didn't go looking for a crime, he was appointed by a Trump Justice Dept, picked by a Trump appointee, to investigate Russians influence in the election, and I don't know how it could be a fishing expedition given the number of indictments and guilty pleas he attained in just two years
christiefan915 (04-23-2019), Phantasmal (04-23-2019)
So, your argument is in the case of Hillary you need no evidence but in the case of Trump you can just ignore the evidence.
You should want to read it because it is the only way to make rational arguments against what is in it. Without reading it, you are simply waving your hands in the air and making irrational sounds. A sound argument would list Mueller's arguments and then show why his arguments are wrong with sources to support your claims.WTF would I want to read it? It's slanted from a prosecutorial POV -it's written to politically damage Trump, even though the lack of a conspiracy by ANYONE in TrumpCo is why the investigation was started
( it was not started for Obstruction crap Mueller found -one giant large process crime only of unproven obstruction)
Once again, you simply make a claim with no evidence. The Mueller report includes much of the information and evidence that led up to the investigation. Unless you can dispute what is laid out in the report your argument about "deep state creeps" makes you look unhinged. Courts rely on evidence and arguments that are well thought out with valid support. Investigators rely on the same thing. They also rely on the same standard the Mueller lays out. Unless there is enough evidence to charge and convict of a crime that is actually on the books, they will not bring any charges.Wait till the Deep State Creeps ( Brennan et all) get their reckoning -this little nothingness of Obstruction
will be a blip kept alive only by the Dems and the media.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Truth Detector (04-23-2019)
Hillary is "whataboutism". If Hillary is guilty of a crime then Kushner, Gates and Manafort would also be. But the reality is that none of them knowinlgy destroyed evidence under subpoena so none of them are guilty. But it doesn't change the fact that evidence clearly was deleted contrary to Truth Detector's claim.
I am fully aware of the Espionage Acts that Hillary could have been charged with. It seems it is you that that lacks awareness. Feel free to cite the act you think makes gross negligence a felony. It requires one be grossly negligent about specific things that lead to a specific result. I doubt you will provide a link to any law. And it is even less likely you will provide any evidence to show how Hillary's actions meet the standard of the law.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
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