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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Beto Omar View Post
    The CNN writer rips Obama for allowing the Russian meddling to occur under his watch. That’s kind of a derp but it’s odd to read it on CNN.
    I thought your line was that the Russians have always meddled in US elections, so what's special about 2016?

    Btw, at least Obama acknowledged that there was Russian election meddling. Well into Trump's presidency he was denying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Yep, they reported that Obama's drone program was a stroke of pure genius.
    That was Fox. CNN actually pointed out that it was killing civilians.
    Don't get me wrong, CNN went easy on Obama, and they get things wrong too. But it can't be compared to a certain conservative station that is biased to the point of being state TV. CNN isn't great, but it has the kind of bias you should expect from imperfect people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    President Obama knew the Republican Party was capable of going pretty low, but he had no idea they would go so low as to elect Trump. It's understandable. Many people underestimated the popularity of Trump which resulted from a scripted fake reality TV show. People who did not watch 'The Apprentice' considered Trump's Presidential run a joke. Now, the joke is on us.
    Your post seems to imply that most Trump voters watched 'The Apprentice' ("People who did not watch 'The Apprentice' considered Trump's Presidential run a joke.") However, there were 63 million Trump voters and 'The Apprentice' averaged about 11 million viewers over seven seasons. And, the demographic for the show was the 18-49 crowd which was a minority of Trump voters.

    Your generalizations are much too broad and partisan.

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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Your post seems to imply that most Trump voters watched 'The Apprentice' ("People who did not watch 'The Apprentice' considered Trump's Presidential run a joke.") However, there were 63 million Trump voters and 'The Apprentice' averaged about 11 million viewers over seven seasons. And, the demographic for the show was the 18-49 crowd which was a minority of Trump voters.

    Your generalizations are much too broad and partisan.
    Do ya think it was the same 11 million viewers year after year? And it sure looked like the 18-49 crowd carrying tiki torches in Charlottesville and chanting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,



    Do ya think it was the same 11 million viewers year after year? And it sure looked like the 18-49 crowd carrying tiki torches in Charlottesville and chanting.
    You are a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The policy makes no sense. The reasoning is supposedly a president is too busy with important stuff to be detracted by a criminal proceeding. However, they clearly provided for impeachment which would also cause the same amount of distraction.

    Scholars thought a sitting president could not be sued in a civil lawsuit until Paul Jones changed all that.
    Impeachment means it's a removal process rarely used ( despite the Dems constant agitation)

    -can you imagine the sheer number of bogus charges/investigations if POTUS were subject to routine criminal proceedings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,

    Do ya think it was the same 11 million viewers year after year? And it sure looked like the 18-49 crowd carrying tiki torches in Charlottesville and chanting.
    The majority of Trump's voters were over 50. I seriously doubt that the tiki torch guys vote. Trump won white college graduates and those voters with some college. Characterizing his voters as the ticki torch crowd is like characterizing Hillary's voters as communists--inaccurate denigration.

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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The majority of Trump's voters were over 50. I seriously doubt that the tiki torch guys vote. Trump won white college graduates and those voters with some college. Characterizing his voters as the ticki torch crowd is like characterizing Hillary's voters as communists--inaccurate denigration.
    That doesn't sound right. I thought Trump voters were split between the rich old white guys and the trailer trash limited education type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    You poor fucks will do anything to divert from the 10 counts of obstruction by Trump

    The DNC and FBI were aware of Russian meddling no later than September 2015 and did nothing.

    The rule of law and presumed innocent is not in your vocabulary and your too stupid to understand so I wouldn’t explain those terms to you.
    Repost when Trump is actually impeached for his alleged crimes. In the meantime tell your representatives to get to work in running the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,



    That doesn't sound right. I thought Trump voters were split between the rich old white guys and the trailer trash limited education type.
    Asshole
    The people who voted for Trump is the hard working middle class. The people who pay there taxes, the people who work hard every day, the ones that are only concerned about raising their families in a safe environment.
    Obviously you don’t meet any of these criteria you fuckin loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,



    That doesn't sound right. I thought Trump voters were split between the rich old white guys and the trailer trash limited education type.
    That is an incorrect stereotype by those seeking to denigrate Trump voters.

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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is an incorrect stereotype by those seeking to denigrate Trump voters.
    I'm not surprised you would like to believe that. When I see the outbursts of hatred at Trump rallies and the way people with Trump bumper stickers drive I get a different impression. Trump wouldn't have been elected if it were not for hateful xenophobes and racists. Sure, some rich white guys voted for him too, but Trump owes his presidency to hatred, division and polarization. Trump himself says he loves the poorly educated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,



    an incorrect stereotype by those seeking to denigrate Trump voters.I'm not surprised you would like to believe that. When I see the outbursts of hatred at Trump rallies and the way people with Trump bumper stickers drive I get a different impression. Trump wouldn't have been elected if it were not for hateful xenophobes and racists. Sure, some rich white guys voted for him too, but Trump owes his presidency to hatred, division and polarization. Trump himself says he loves the poorly educated.
    Your post was an incorrect stereotype by those seeking to denigrate Trump voters.

    You should be ashamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    The DNC and FBI were aware of Russian meddling no later than September 2015 and did nothing.

    The rule of law and presumed innocent is not in your vocabulary and your too stupid to understand so I wouldn’t explain those terms to you.
    Repost when Trump is actually impeached for his alleged crimes. In the meantime tell your representatives to get to work in running the country.
    My representatives are all Republicans. They don’t know shit about running the country.

    10 counts of obstruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    I'm not surprised you would like to believe that. When I see the outbursts of hatred at Trump rallies and the way people with Trump bumper stickers drive I get a different impression. Trump wouldn't have been elected if it were not for hateful xenophobes and racists. Sure, some rich white guys voted for him too, but Trump owes his presidency to hatred, division and polarization. Trump himself says he loves the poorly educated.
    That is not what I believe but what all the analyses and polls of 2016 voters tell us.

    What you see in newscasts of Trump rallies or how people with Trump bumper stickers drive tells us nothing about who voted for Trump. Can you tell the education level of a person who shows anger at a rally or drives in a certain way? Certainly you don't base your generalization of how people vote based on that tiny sample. A guy almost ran me off the road with a NY license plate but I certainly don't think most New Yorkers drive that way.

    Those who try to portray Trump voters as uneducated hicks with one tooth from Appalachia are just sore losers seeking to denigrate those voters because they are still sore for losing.

    I have nothing in common with Trump or his supporters and do not agree with them on almost anything, but I'm not so dishonest that I am going to lie about their characteristics and see myself as superior to anyone. For example, all the analyses saw Trump getting most of his votes from those without a college degree. JPP posters changed "without a college degree" to "uneducated" which pushing real hatred and bigotry. 3/4 of American adults do not have a degree.

    In previous discussions of this topic I posted Census Bureau data showing those with the lowest educational attainment are Hispanics and blacks and those groups vote heavily Democratic. But I do not look down on those people or call them stupid for the way they vote because I disagree with their politics.

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