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    Default Have Putin and Trump permanently poisoned the American political system?

    Look at what's happening, even after butchering Mueller's report there is no outcry for immediate impeachment/removal from office

    think if Clinton, Nixon or literally anyone else had committed a trainload of treasonous crimes like Trump has - they'd have been removed from office by the military by now, no question about it

    so now the Dems are subpoenaing the actual Mueller report, which will take months due to even more Trump obstruction of justice, then what?............."oh we can't impeach because the GOP Senate won't convict!".............so what? we've got a soviet asset in the WH right now fer chrissakes. If Putin started reporting for work at 1600 Pennsylvania Av they'd still be on the fence!

    the Dems should start impeachment proceedings right now, and get on with rebuilding the economy, and tearing down Trump's concentration camps on the border - all simultaneously!

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    No, Putin and Trump have not poisoned the American political system.

    The Democrats tried though and failed.

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    the cultists that have taken over the GOP are authoritarians.......aka reactionaries

    Why Do Trump’s Supporters Stand by Him, No Matter What?

    Many people, including I, have labeled Donald Trump an authoritarian leader. But they are honestly baffled by the loyalty of his followers. The decades of research on authoritarian followers provide some answers.

    Donald Trump received 46.7 percent of the vote in the 2016 election. An aggregation of public opinion polls available at https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/ shows that he maintained this level of support until March of 2017, when his failure to repeal Obamacare produced a drop to 40%. Difficulties in fulfilling other campaign promises, such as building “the wall” and “locking up” Hillary Clinton may explain why the rating slid to a nadir of 36.4% in December 2017.

    But since then Trump has regained about half of the ground he lost. He was back to 40% in February 2018 and since then about 41-42% of the public has approved of his performance. Considering all the things he has done in the past six months, that is astounding. But if you look at the poll results over this time and try to find some kind of reaction when (to cite recent examples) Trump began the trade wars with friend and foe alike, or absolved Putin in Helsinki of interfering in the 2016 election, or separated children from their parents at the Mexican border, you won’t find any! His base has been very loyal. I doubt he will lose more than a percent or two of his national support, and probably not even that, as a result of the August 21st “Tuesday Afternoon Massacre” (of Trump). And whatever he loses, he will soon get back.

    In a sense, that shouldn’t surprise anyone. Has any president since Lyndon Johnson kept his campaign promises as energetically as Donald Trump has in his first 18 month in office? He has strenuously advanced his base’s causes, from all the executive orders he has signed to his nominations to the Supreme Court. And when he failed to achieve what he promised, he always blamed others for not supporting him, including the Democrats. And while economists warn it is too early to tell, Trump has received credit for the vibrant economy.

    In another sense, however, the fidelity of Trump’s base remains astounding. He has made so many unforced errors because of his lack of understanding and low problem-solving intelligence, his vast ignorance, his enormous, never-ending dishonesty which seems as reflexive as his breathing, his explosive hostility, his uncontrollable vanity, his despicable demeaning of women, his squalid vulgarity, the stupidity of his stereotypes, the shabbiness of his thinking, the buffoonery of his parading, his attacks on the institutions he needs most to safeguard the country, his incredibly poor judgment about the character of those whom he has brought into his administration, his equally mind-numbing lack of judgment about foreign leaders, friend and foe, and his willingness to inflame Americans’ disagreements and turn them into conflagrations which make us that deeply divided house which the Gospels and Abraham Lincoln warned against—how can his supporters have stood so solidly behind him? You’d think they’d be having some second thoughts at least.

    The main reason, I submit, is that most of Trump’s backers are authoritarian followers—people who submit too much to the leaders they consider legitimate, trust them too much, and give them too much leeway to do whatever they want. “Well yeah,” you might say. “But that’s like saying an apple is an apple because it’s an apple.” And it would be golden delicious example of a rhetorical tautology except social scientists have had a good, independent way of measuring this kind of authoritarianism since the 1970s. And it was clear from the first studies that political “conservatives”—from ordinary voters to elected officials—tended to score highly on this personality test (Chapter 6 of The Authoritarians, the book on this website). We can gain considerable insight into Donald Trump’s supporters from the research on authoritarianism.

    https://www.theauthoritarians.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Look at what's happening, even after butchering Mueller's report there is no outcry for immediate impeachment/removal from office

    think if Clinton, Nixon or literally anyone else had committed a trainload of treasonous crimes like Trump has - they'd have been removed from office by the military by now, no question about it

    so now the Dems are subpoenaing the actual Mueller report, which will take months due to even more Trump obstruction of justice, then what?............."oh we can't impeach because the GOP Senate won't convict!".............so what? we've got a soviet asset in the WH right now fer chrissakes. If Putin started reporting for work at 1600 Pennsylvania Av they'd still be on the fence!

    the Dems should start impeachment proceedings right now, and get on with rebuilding the economy, and tearing down Trump's concentration camps on the border - all simultaneously!
    And if all that happened it all happened under Obamas nose!

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    No, the right wing media from Fox to talk radio incendiary lie machine did it.
    It has created a backwoods uneducated misinformed movement of degenerate fascist morons
    who hate our venerated institutions who are in fact responsible for 100 years of US primacy
    hegemony and general prosperity the likes of which this earth has never before seen.

    Way to roll us back to before we saved Europe in WWI, you ignorant TeaBag Trumptarded
    uneducated holy roller rubes. You ALL should die and die quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    the Dems should start impeachment proceedings right now
    I couldn't agree more..do it now to ensure Trump's re-election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    No, the right wing media from Fox to talk radio incendiary lie machine did it.
    It has created a backwoods uneducated misinformed movement of degenerate fascist morons
    who hate our venerated institutions who are in fact responsible for 100 years of US primacy
    hegemony and general prosperity the likes of which this earth has never before seen.

    Way to roll us back to before we saved Europe in WWI, you ignorant TeaBag Trumptarded
    uneducated holy roller rubes. You ALL should die and die quickly.
    I agree but how do we stop this shit show soon?...........not much time left

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I couldn't agree more..do it now to ensure Trump's re-election
    comrade, if the Dems impeach and Trump remains in office, that's proof America fully deserves this clusterfuck, you may even get a one or two ruble raise for all your slime

    is this the only board your troll btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    comrade, if the Dems impeach and Trump remains in office, that's proof America fully deserves this clusterfuck, you may even get a one or two ruble raise for all your slime

    is this the only board your troll btw?
    do it do it do it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    do it do it do it..
    da da da!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    da da da!
    what have you got to lose?
    can't win on the economy, can't win on no wars, can't win on obstruction, can't win on collusion..you got zip

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    what have you got to lose?
    can't win on the economy, can't win on no wars, can't win on obstruction, can't win on collusion..you got zip
    Mueller clearly reported on Trump's obstruction of justice, if you can read English check it out

    but I gotta say comrade, at least you have the integrity to not deny you're a Troll

    but you won't acknowledge you're in St Petersburg........why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Mueller clearly reported on Trump's obstruction of justice, if you can read English check it out

    but I gotta say comrade, at least you have the integrity to not deny you're a Troll

    but you won't acknowledge you're in St Petersburg........why not?
    do it. oh please do it. you have the best interests of the country to impeach on obstruction...do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    do it. oh please do it. you have the best interests of the country to impeach on obstruction...do it
    why won't you admit you're a Russian troll pussy?

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