shady plan to spy on the Trump campaign

[rjhenn]

the reckoning is coming. Nunes sent up 8 criminal referrals - 3 on conspiracy - to Barr.
And Barr is paying attention

Anything to protect Trump.

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[rjhenn]

you are not paying attention to the details here - just what was the founding document ( 302) of the FBI counterintelligence investigation? Mueller wouldn't let the DoJ release it to Congress ( per Nunes)
What was he protecting? Rosenweasel was doing the same

You can be damn sure the spying was started as a fishing exhibition though.. It's all gonna come out now.
Let's see how far IG Horowitz takes it to start (May or June report)

Tranquillus has a point. What benefit did the Obama administration get from spying on the Trump campaign? OTOH, it's clear that you're desperate to hide Trump's collaboration with the Russians to throw the election.

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[rjhenn]

What use did they make of it, you ask? Really? That's like saying, "I tried to rob that bank, but did not succeed, so, no harm, no foul."

You are deceived and delusional. But we knew that.

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[rjhenn]

one step at as time. I don't want to LEAP to Obama -Obama could have just been concerned abut da Russians, and his underlings turned it into a hatchett job on Trump.. I don't know -but follow the evidence where ever it goes

How was it a "hatchett [sic] job"? What advantage did anyone get?

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[rjhenn]

Why, in your view, were the leaders of the main intelligence agencies so desperate to 'get Trump'? They didn't want a Mexican wall? They didn't want to keep Muslims out? They were determined not to make America great again?



That indeed appears to be Barr's 'mission'. We'll see if anything comes of it.

Trump was clearly the most corrupt candidate in generations. And now we have the most corrupt administration in generations.

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[archives]

Why do you pretend that it doesn't exist? Is it because you are a low information mentally challenged dumb fuck on steroids?

"Deep State" is a total fabrication created by the right wing demagogues since it was difficult for them to find a scapegoat in the melodrama they create when all three branches of the Government were dominated by Republicans. Works perfectly, no one can definitively define it and you can adapt it to fit nearly every situation you can't explain, it is the "deep state's" fault

Now don't tell us about adozen phrases cherry picked from over 5,000 plus Emails, lets repeat that, a dozen phrases from [B]over 5,000 plus Emails[/B, between two lovers proves a "deep state" conspiracy existed. If it did, they you should be able to find more than a dozen phrases from over 5,000 plus Emails showing a real plot to bring down Trump

[rjhenn]

Just as those intelligence entities would have remiss *not* to look into a foreign nation hostile to the US orchestrating an espionage effort to influence our election system, probably more so, a lot more so

And Trump constantly being the victim of everything is getting old, playing the martyr has hit the point of marginal utility

Well, they can't play the hero. Only Trump's brain dead followers buy that one anymore. Playing victim is their fallback.

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Do you think that by answering a question with the same moronic question it makes you look less mentally ill? Morons like you are calling the Russians hostile actors; Obama wanted to re-set relations. Was he wrong? I get why you are flailing and deflecting. Because answering the question honestly makes you look like the moron we know you to be.

Perhaps idiots like you want to argue that Russia didn't become hostile until Trump was elected? Is that your moronic argument?

Are you daft?

My actual response, "Wrong" at what?

He was President at the time, not a candidate for President, President, and a President is suppose to talk with foreign leaders, even those who are antagonistic toward the US

Now is his describing Russia as something less than an enemy mean Russia isn't' hostile to the US, ah, no, did you expect a President talking to a leader he doesn't trust to come out and tell him he is a threat to us? And to completely blow your inane "point," I think if you look long enough you will find plenty of descriptions where Obama spoke of Russia in threatening terms

Amazing what lengths Trumpkins will go to rationalize the Trump campaign looking toward Russia for help in their campaign. Can't repeat it enough, prior to 2016 the same Trumpkins would have been screaming such behavior was "unAmerican"

[rjhenn]

How many times are you going to regurgitate the same irrelevant video?

For the umpteenth time, Obama was President at the time, he wasn't running for President, he was President, Presidents talk to foreign nations, even those that are hostile to the US, and even beyond that, Obama isn't meeting here to see what Russia can offer them to win his election

Truth Deflector lives for irrelevancies.

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[rjhenn]

The supposititious DEEP STATE again, and now it is responsible for making the US a "Fascistic third world shit hole," the fifth dimension

The right lives in the Twilight Zone.

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[rjhenn]

None of this will stop Russiagate conspiracy theorists from kicking the can further down the road and moving the goalposts to wherever they wish. Nearly 3 years of delusion and brainwashing is difficult to shake.

As others have mentioned, if a Democratic campaign had done what the Trump campaign did, the conservatives would be screaming "TREASON!!!".

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[rjhenn]

None of this will stop Russiagate conspiracy theorists from kicking the can further down the road and moving the goalposts to wherever they wish. Nearly 3 years of delusion and brainwashing is difficult to shake.

As is the over a decade of delusion and brainwashing that you've been under.

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[rjhenn]

"Deep State" is a total fabrication created by the right wing demagogues since it was difficult for them to find a scapegoat in the melodrama they create when all three branches of the Government were dominated by Republicans. Works perfectly, no one can definitively define it and you can adapt it to fit nearly every situation you can't explain, it is the "deep state's" fault

Now don't tell us about adozen phrases cherry picked from over 5,000 plus Emails, lets repeat that, a dozen phrases from [B]over 5,000 plus Emails[/B, between two lovers proves a "deep state" conspiracy existed. If it did, they you should be able to find more than a dozen phrases from over 5,000 plus Emails showing a real plot to bring down Trump

They don't care about reality, just whatever they can pick out to shore up their conspiracy theories. Looking for reality in their beliefs is worse than looking for a needle in a haystack.

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[dukkha]

Just as those intelligence entities would have remiss *not* to look into a foreign nation hostile to the US orchestrating an espionage effort to influence our election system, probably more so, a lot more so

And Trump constantly being the victim of everything is getting old, playing the martyr has hit the point of marginal utility

hilarious coming from a prime TDS poster.

You don't understand the difference between unverified raw data, and a report.
There would have to be enough of a report level INTEl to make an assessment ( 302) to justify spying on Trump
Everything we know so far shows it was was a fishing expedition (at best)

[dukkha]

Are you daft?

My actual response, "Wrong" at what?

He was President at the time, not a candidate for President, President, and a President is suppose to talk with foreign leaders, even those who are antagonistic toward the US

Now is his describing Russia as something less than an enemy mean Russia isn't' hostile to the US, ah, no, did you expect a President talking to a leader he doesn't trust to come out and tell him he is a threat to us? And to completely blow your inane "point," I think if you look long enough you will find plenty of descriptions where Obama spoke of Russia in threatening terms

Amazing what lengths Trumpkins will go to rationalize the Trump campaign looking toward Russia for help in their campaign. Can't repeat it enough, prior to 2016 the same Trumpkins would have been screaming such behavior was "unAmerican"

simplistic "Russia is bad" -what was the purpose of the Russian reset if Russia was this horrid "threat" you paint?