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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Why not? Mechanical engineers have done it since the Wright brothers.
    Are you saying pilots are soft?

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    **Battle of the brainiacs!***

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    what's wrong. can't code?
    LOL! You hit that nail on the head!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    1. Computer engineering isn't an ABET accredited curriculum, like electrical engineering is, so few, if any, are able to obtain a professional license. In most states, therefore, it is illegal to call yourself an engineer without a license.
    2. They are constantly putting out crappy versions of their products, that crash and burn. Then they just design a "fix" and require the customer to install it. In the fields of real engineering, such ethics are not tolerated, and they would be forced from the practice. Imagine if the Ford Motor Company routinely put out products that fail routinely. They would have been put out of business decades ago.
    Edsel. Pinto, as examples. Many auto companies and brands are out of business. GM ended Pontiac, Fiero, Corvair, Oldsmobile and many others.Nothing special about the big 3. they all have totally missed trends like small cars when the oil crisis hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Edsel. Pinto, as examples. Many auto companies and brands are out of business. GM ended Pontiac, Fiero, Corvair, Oldsmobile and many others.Nothing special about the big 3. they all have totally missed trends like small cars when the oil crisis hit.
    You're confusing engineering with marketing, bean counting and maybe a few more professions.

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    en·gi·neer
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    noun
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    a person who designs, builds, or maintains engines, machines, or public works.
    synonyms: designer, planner, builder, architect, producer, fabricator, developer, creator; inventor, originator, deviser, contriver, mastermind

    Its a fairly broad term.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    en·gi·neer
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    a person who designs, builds, or maintains engines, machines, or public works.
    synonyms: designer, planner, builder, architect, producer, fabricator, developer, creator; inventor, originator, deviser, contriver, mastermind

    Its a fairly broad term.
    A programmer doesn't maintain his machine. He just uses it.

    You are saying a truck driver is an engineer. You are saying a car wash attendant is an engineer. You are saying a fry cook is an engineer.
    They all maintain machines.

    Did you know that dictionaries do not define any word? That is not even their purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    A programmer doesn't maintain his machine. He just uses it.

    You are saying a truck driver is an engineer. You are saying a car wash attendant is an engineer. You are saying a fry cook is an engineer.
    They all maintain machines.

    Did you know that dictionaries do not define any word? That is not even their purpose.
    The definition does not include users as you suggest.
    The definition is accurate, you hold an unreasonably narrow view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    The definition does not include users as you suggest.
    Yes it does.
    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    The definition is accurate,
    No dictionary defines any word. No dictionary owns any word. Dictionaries even conflict with each other.
    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    you hold an unreasonably narrow view.
    Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that has this problem.

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