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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    ... in response to your claim, post 67.
    Post #69, cunt. Back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    bark goyim bark

    Not an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    They voted for President Obama, but Republicans did everything in their power to prevent success and/or a flourishing middle class.
    They voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. In 2016 about 8-9 million of those who voted for Obama voted for Trump. Telling them it was in their interest to vote Democratic while at the same time telling them their economic position was declining only works for so long. Eventually they try something different.

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    Hello gfm7175,

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    There is no such thing as "free" college.

    NOTHING is "free" in life... It always costs somebody something...
    When we refer to free college in political discussions it is generally assumed that we are speaking of tuition being paid by the government, mostly out of taxpayer revenues. It is actually free to the students. This alleviates the burden of being saddled with crushing debt at a time when young people are starting jobs and families and trying to save for a down payment on a home. They pay it back by paying their taxes during their lifetime of work. If a college degree allows them to earn more money, they pay more into the system during their lifetime than it cost the system to put them through college. Thus, it is actually a benefit to both society and the economy, or GDP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Really? And you would know that how, Tattoo?
    Because you're obviously too stupid to make a decent living, dickhead.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Because you're obviously too stupid to make a decent living, dickhead.
    poor vocational school boi
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello gfm7175,

    When we refer to free college in political discussions it is generally assumed that we are speaking of tuition being paid by the government, mostly out of taxpayer revenues.
    Students are not taxpayers?? Also, why should taxpayers pay for a service for their whole lives even though they only receive that service for a few years of their lives?? Why should I pay for someone else's education??

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It is actually free to the students.
    No, it is not. THEY are paying for it, like you yourself just stated above, through their taxpayer dollars. They will continue to pay for it for their whole lives, instead of just for the few years they are in school, or for however long they have their loan... So no, it is anything BUT "free"... Tacking the name "free" on something does NOT make it free... Maybe it's free for people who don't pay any taxes, but for everyone else, it is anything BUT free...

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    This alleviates the burden of being saddled with crushing debt at a time when young people are starting jobs and families and trying to save for a down payment on a home.
    No, it doesn't. It just spreads that same burden out throughout a taxpayer's lifetime to make it less noticeable to the ignorant taxpayer (and likely would even INCREASE the total amount of burden, since it would be for a lifetime as opposed to X number of years).

    For example, (and I'm using random numbers here to illustrate a point), $20,000 instantly, or $6,000/year for four years would both be less of an overall burden on someone than $50/month over 60 years...

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    They pay it back by paying their taxes during their lifetime of work.
    Ummmm, I thought you just said that it was free for the students?? Now they're paying it back during their whole lifetime?? Which one is it?? You're locked in paradox here...

    So, essentially, you are proposing sneaking yet ANOTHER tax into our paychecks, further reducing our take-home pay, and that's supposed to HELP us somehow? I'm confused... What about the people who already paid for their college schooling out of their own pockets?? Are they supposed to now pay for other people's college schooling also??

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If a college degree allows them to earn more money,
    Depends upon the degree...

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    they pay more into the system during their lifetime than it cost the system to put them through college. Thus, it is actually a benefit to both society and the economy, or GDP.
    Isn't paying much more than necessary for something hurting the person paying for it? Socialism is theft; it does not create any wealth. It only destroys it. Capitalism is what creates wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Post #69, cunt. Back it up.
    67 comes before 69, so you back it up. I'll understand if you can't lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    67 comes before 69, so you back it up. I'll understand if you can't lol.
    Which IRS agent did you talk to about my taxes, bitch? You made the claim, cunt. I’d like to follow up on that.

    Oh, wait. I won’t have to, will I, taintlicker? That’s because you’re a fucking liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Because you're obviously too stupid to make a decent living, dickhead.



    I’m loving my LIFETIME PENSION right now, cunt. Get it? LIFETIME. There’s not a fucking chance my income runs dry for the rest of my life. Regardless of the market. Toss in the additional 401k and the spouse’s 401k and I have no worries for the rest of my life.

    Read it and weep, bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    intellectuals dominate political discourse and control higher education
    Thank God for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello guno,



    The fact that Republicans once believed higher education was worth while and now don't - is evidence of the fall of the Republican party. Trump likes the poorly educated and now the whole party is seeing how easily misinformed people can be fooled into voting against their own better interests.

    They are in it for the money, folks. They don't care about you. If you're not a billionaire or at least a multi-millionaire and you're voting for the Republican party then you are a fool. The Republican Party doesn't want you to be well educated nor well informed. They want you dumb and hateful. They like easy marks for their con job. And for al you people who really know better but you're shutting up while you get rich off the stock market? Shame on you.
    You got that backwards. Democrats are the ones against freedom, education and self defense. You are right that Republicans are in it for the money but aren't the oversimplified thing you say they are. Republicans open the way for new wealth while Democrats will stop new wealth at every turn, liquidizing your earnings and redistributing it. Democrats turn government into an overbearing presence dictating everything. Republicans aren't gonna hold your hand and sure you might get into some fights in your climb up the corporate ladder, but Republicans aren't going to shut it all down and declare martial law and then ransack your surplus until everyone is nearly naked and living on a coupon book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by survivor001 View Post
    In my opinion, the reason why repukes are against higher education is an effort to keep their base as uneducated, ignorant and easy to manipulate as possible in order for them to sinisterly prey on the uninformed
    Republicans are decisive and set in what they decide. Impressions are everything. If you are trying to get Republican support and you make them think you're a stupid liability then sure you aren't going to win that scholarship. A Democrat is going to award that scholarship to anyone based on demographics and pity and other non-educational bias. Republicans are harder to impress. Either way them seats are going to be filled whether it's a Dem or Rep awarding those scholarships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    I’m loving my LIFETIME PENSION right now, cunt. Get it? LIFETIME. There’s not a fucking chance my income runs dry for the rest of my life. Regardless of the market. Toss in the additional 401k and the spouse’s 401k and I have no worries for the rest of my life.

    Read it and weep, bitch.
    I made a wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Part Multi 313 View Post
    I made a wish.
    Good for you. To whom? Your sky fairy?

    BTW, my spouse gets my pension for the rest of her life. The gift that keeps on giving. Pretty fucking good for my family, isn’t it?




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