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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    I've never seen a capitalist build a factory - they must work in the dark!
    Open your eyes sometime. It happens all the time. Whole industries have been created right in the broad light of day.
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    They must be very strong to install the machinery on their own too.
    Capitalists create the machinery. Capitalists install the machinery.
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    These things are produced by workers working.
    Workers working for a capitalist doesn't change anything.
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    The thieves just spend some of their thievings on crappy propaganda, obviously.
    No, they steal wealth. That's what makes them thieves.
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    We could do it all in a tiny proportion of the time and provide everything free without these crooks interfering.
    Do you work for free? How do you feed and house yourself? How do you pay for the computer and network you are using? Do you expect companies to give away their products?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    In state capitalism the state becomes a big firm on the world market, such as was the USSR. Without its government to shoot people down capitalism wouldn't last five minutes, obviously. You were brainwashed as a result of McCarthy and know nothing about the matter, I'm afraid.
    Governments don't produce anything. Communist nations do have the government owning all the factories, but they know nothing about how to run them or about the market they sell to.

    Capitalism created civilization. It has lasted for thousands of years, long before McCarthy and his paranoid views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Don't be daft - your chums steal all his money, as you know.
    If a factory owner doesn't pay his workers, he won't HAVE any workers! You're deluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    LOL...poor guy....doesn't understand certification;(
    He doesn't understand that when hiring for a position, experience trumps his silly little paper,
    unless some stupid idiot with a paper who knows nothing about the position he/she's hiring for
    is doing the hiring. Just had a conversation with the nurse at the Dr, office today, she agrees.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    He doesn't understand that when hiring for a position, experience trumps his silly little paper,
    unless some stupid idiot with a paper who knows nothing about the position he/she's hiring for
    is doing the hiring. Just had a conversation with the nurse at the Dr, office today, she agrees.
    He also doesn't understand plus hours.... ‘(Teachers can also earn more additional‘ education (those are the “lane” increases). Some districts* move teachers into a higher pay column when they earn a certain number of credit hours of professional development or continuing ed. Bachelor‘s plus

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    He also doesn't understand plus hours.... ‘(Teachers can also earn more additional‘ education (those are the “lane” increases). Some districts* move teachers into a higher pay column when they earn a certain number of credit hours of professional development or continuing ed. Bachelor‘s plus
    They sure do, dumbfuck. But they sure as shit don’t call the degree a bachelors “plus”. It’s still just a bachelors degree, pal. The bullshit about “plus” is just that. Bullshit.

    My kid’s “plus” is called a Masters degree. You never managed that one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    They sure do, dumbfuck. But they sure as shit don’t call the degree a bachelors “plus”. It’s still just a bachelors degree, pal. The bullshit about “plus” is just that. Bullshit.

    My kid’s “plus” is called a Masters degree. You never managed that one?
    *‘It's a bachelor's plus....Period Your child's degree included ' plus until they earned the Master's degree....You lose....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    *‘It's a bachelor's plus....Period Your child's degree included ' plus until they earned the Master's degree....You lose....


    Sure as shit not, dumbfuck. Just like anybody else, they only had a bachelors until they earned a new degree. Nothing “plus” about it. Pure horseshit.

    You’re a retired teacher? Pretty fucking lazy that you would get all those “pluses” and never obtain the next degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    Sure as shit not, dumbfuck. Just like anybody else, they only had a bachelors until they earned a new degree. Nothing “plus” about it. Pure horseshit.

    You’re a retired teacher? Pretty fucking lazy that you would get all those “pluses” and never obtain the next degree.
    Of course they had plus....I just explained that...Perhaps you missed it...you lose....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Wanting an education because it makes them fuller human beings is nothing you can relate to political party. Certainly liberals and conservatives are more attracted to certain fields. Wanting a fuller life and to be financially successful are not mutually exclusive. Having financial security allows one to travel, attend symphonies and operas, contribute to charities and political campaigns---things that contribute to a fuller life.
    We don't agree here, though I follow the argument. In my experience people who care about money do things with it merely to show off - as I say, my experience has made me cynical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Whose armies murdered vast numbers in socialist China, Cuba, North Korea, the former Soviet Union? More were murdered by their own leaders than "your" armies.

    Again, why don't those workers quit those jobs and join together to produce something useful they don't have to give to their evil bosses? That is exactly what my yard guy has done. He came here from Mexico, worked for landscapers to learn the business, and then started his own business and hires other immigrants to work for him. He now has over 100 customers. Of course, he is probably evil and pays himself more than he pays his workers. He also buys and maintains all his equipment, does all the payroll and taxes, recruits customers, collects the money.
    In the case of the Soviet Union, eighteen capitalist armies attacked, destroying the working class on which the Revolution was based (Lenin had made a wild bet in starting things in a Country where the working class was, if very advanced, also very small). In China the Japanese and the Americans, as you know, though, as in Korea, similarly attacked, this was essentially a peasant, not a socialist revolution. I assure you that state capitalist armies are in no sense 'mine'.

    Under capitalist dictatorship such as exists in most countries, the police state prevents most workers from doing anything much: only world revolution will produce any real freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Your claims make no sense, as you know.
    I used to argue with Stalinists, and it was very similar to this; having been thoroughly brainwashed they knew certain nonsensical things were entirely true, though they could be quite bright and well-meaning people in themselves. It is the same with fundamentalists. While such groups feel they hold power they believe they can silence everyone else, who, not accepting the brainwashing, of course 'make no sense'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Open your eyes sometime. It happens all the time. Whole industries have been created right in the broad light of day.

    Capitalists create the machinery. Capitalists install the machinery.

    Workers working for a capitalist doesn't change anything.

    No, they steal wealth. That's what makes them thieves.

    Do you work for free? How do you feed and house yourself? How do you pay for the computer and network you are using? Do you expect companies to give away their products?
    I'm afraid you've been so thoroughly brainwashed you don't understand language: capitalists persuade mugs to do all the work, as even Americans must know. Workers being cheated by capitalists change everything, obviously, because they set up con-men in power. Kook at Trumpf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Governments don't produce anything. Communist nations do have the government owning all the factories, but they know nothing about how to run them or about the market they sell to.

    Capitalism created civilization. It has lasted for thousands of years, long before McCarthy and his paranoid views.
    What you call communist is like what you call Christian - gangs of capitalist crooks making money out of brainwashed mugs like your goodself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    If a factory owner doesn't pay his workers, he won't HAVE any workers! You're deluded.
    He pays them, child, about half of the value of what they produce. How else could you have capitalism? Grow up!

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