Why Most Republicans Don’t Like Higher Education

[Mason Michaels]

LOL..poor guy doesn't understand certification

Poor twat,doesn't have a personality!

[iolo]

How does the "capitalist", who risks his capital to build a factory and employ labor, "steal" from labor?

By building the factory, purchasing and installing the machinery, and paying the taxes and utilities to run the building, labor is able to produce goods at a fraction of the labor time, and at better quality, then the labor could do by hand. Therefore the price of the goods plummets and common folk can purchase it at a far more reasonable cost.

Who in this picture is getting ripped off?

I've never seen a capitalist build a factory - they must work in the dark! They must be very strong to install the machinery on their own too. These things are produced by workers working. The thieves just spend some of their thievings on crappy propaganda, obviously. We could do it all in a tiny proportion of the time and provide everything free without these crooks interfering.

[iolo]

There is no such thing as 'state capitalism'. Capitalism requires no government. It is the only economic system that creates wealth. Socialism can only exist by stealing wealth, and requires dictatorships or oligarchies to implement it.

In state capitalism the state becomes a big firm on the world market, such as was the USSR. Without its government to shoot people down capitalism wouldn't last five minutes, obviously. You were brainwashed as a result of McCarthy and know nothing about the matter, I'm afraid.

[iolo]

Did you know that homesteading still happens? You are right about the theft.

No I didn't know that, but I can't imagine it has much economic importance.

[iolo]

WRONG. Socialism is theft of wealth. It can ONLY be implemented by dictatorships and oligarchies. That is government, dude.

Socialism is control of society by those who produce the wealth, on behalf of oppressed humanity. It is established by taking power away from the thieves.

[MAGA MAN]

I've never seen a capitalist build a factory - they must work in the dark! They must be very strong to install the machinery on their own too. These things are produced by workers working. The thieves just spend some of their thievings on crappy propaganda, obviously. We could do it all in a tiny proportion of the time and provide everything free without these crooks interfering.

Ever see a laborer purchase the machinery for a factory?

[iolo]

WRONG. Capitalism is freedom to create what you want, and to sell it for what you can get for it. It is the freedom to create new products and markets that never existed before. It is the freedom to create wealth. It requires no government to implement it. It is capitalism that brings civilization out of the jungle.

You live in a total dream. Under capitalism the very rich eat the bodies of those who do the work. New markets are very like new houses for burglars. Burglars and other scoundrels control capitalist government to destroy the freedom of those who do the work and of those whose countries they are invading, obviously.

[iolo]

Agreed, which means Republicans are no more likely than Democrats to attend college for that reason. Your generalization about Republicans has nothing to support it but your bigoted opinion.

It's not my impression that all democrats are quite that bad - lots and lots of them seem to want education because it makes them fuller human beings, which is the point. If some of the Republicans who post on here shared that aim, it doesn't seem to have worked for them. Pity!

[iolo]

Then education is also property that somebody is stealing from somebody else. The teacher was kidnapped to work and stealing his knowledge to give to others.

Which society does not "kidnap" people to work?

I was talking about slavery per se, not wage slavery. I don't take your point, I'm afraid. Under capitalism it is necessary to give the mugs a limited education as well as training the crooks, and a lot of decent people seize the chance for real education.

[iolo]

And in a socialist society the government steals some of the wealth produced by the workers and the workers also have to work for the state or starve. The only difference is the capitalist bosses call it profit and the socialist bosses call it taxes--but the bosses still get more under both systems.

What keeps the workers from joining together and producing these things themselves?

There aren't any socialist countries, as you know. Where they existed your armies went in and murdered vast numbers. Union-busting is one of the very many means that stops the workers from producing things themselves, but where they can face working with this shitty system they manage quite often. It hardly seems worth pretending the capitalist system is not mortally sick, however.

[iolo]

Ever see a laborer purchase the machinery for a factory?

Don't be daft - your chums steal all his money, as you know.

[gfm7175]

Can you tell me why some dipshits believe the word "freedom" means some poor muscular guy wearing spandex and swinging a baseball bat?

Non sequitur... Doesn't follow from the conversation being had...

[Flash]

It's not my impression that all democrats are quite that bad - lots and lots of them seem to want education because it makes them fuller human beings, which is the point. If some of the Republicans who post on here shared that aim, it doesn't seem to have worked for them. Pity!

Wanting an education because it makes them fuller human beings is nothing you can relate to political party. Certainly liberals and conservatives are more attracted to certain fields. Wanting a fuller life and to be financially successful are not mutually exclusive. Having financial security allows one to travel, attend symphonies and operas, contribute to charities and political campaigns---things that contribute to a fuller life.

[Flash]

There aren't any socialist countries, as you know. Where they existed your armies went in and murdered vast numbers. Union-busting is one of the very many means that stops the workers from producing things themselves, but where they can face working with this shitty system they manage quite often. It hardly seems worth pretending the capitalist system is not mortally sick, however.

Whose armies murdered vast numbers in socialist China, Cuba, North Korea, the former Soviet Union? More were murdered by their own leaders than "your" armies.

Again, why don't those workers quit those jobs and join together to produce something useful they don't have to give to their evil bosses? That is exactly what my yard guy has done. He came here from Mexico, worked for landscapers to learn the business, and then started his own business and hires other immigrants to work for him. He now has over 100 customers. Of course, he is probably evil and pays himself more than he pays his workers. He also buys and maintains all his equipment, does all the payroll and taxes, recruits customers, collects the money.

[MAGA MAN]

Don't be daft - your chums steal all his money, as you know.

Your claims make no sense, as you know.