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    Trump says they are rapists and murderers. What responsibility would he have if they were and he trucked them into cities?
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    The whole point of a Sanctuary city was NOT to "Take them in as a haven". I get that's what fucking Fox News told you. The whole point was to NOT use LOCAL POLICE AGENCIES to investigate, arrest and deport illegal immigrants. That's it. That's ALL it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterWilson View Post
    The whole point of a Sanctuary city was NOT to "Take them in as a haven". I get that's what fucking Fox News told you. The whole point was to NOT use LOCAL POLICE AGENCIES to investigate, arrest and deport illegal immigrants. That's it. That's ALL it is.
    Tough shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterWilson View Post
    The whole point of a Sanctuary city was NOT to "Take them in as a haven". I get that's what fucking Fox News told you. The whole point was to NOT use LOCAL POLICE AGENCIES to investigate, arrest and deport illegal immigrants. That's it. That's ALL it is.
    You forgot to add...not to inform ICE if they're illegal after being arrested (that's breaking two or more laws), even if ICE has them on their deportation or wanted lists.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You forgot to add...not to inform ICE if they're illegal after being arrested (that's breaking two or more laws), even if ICE has them on their deportation or wanted lists.
    Let's keep it straight, mmmmKAY!??

    Sanctuary cities” is actually a misnomer. While many Americans believe that it refers to a city that doesn’t prosecute immigrants, so-called “sanctuary cities” actually refer to something far more specific.

    There’s no single definition of what is a sanctuary city, but generally speaking, it’s a city (or a county, or a state) that limits its cooperation with federal immigration enforcement agents in order to protect low-priority immigrants from deportation, while still turning over those who have committed serious crimes. But in the spirit of America’s founding principles as a nation of immigrants, sanctuary cities act as a protective shield, standing in the way of federal efforts to pinpoint and deport people at random.

    Faith communities started what became known as the “Sanctuary Movement” in the early 1980s. It was a symbolic extension of the medieval practice of churches providing shelter to all, regardless of their crimes. But for a handful of faith leaders in the southwestern U.S., the immigrants that they provided sanctuary to weren’t outlaws. They were refugees.

    Central America was racked by nonstop violence and civil war, and death squads forced waves of people to flee north from Guatemala and El Salvador. Appalled to see the U.S. government turn away those migrants once they reached the border rather than take them in, church leaders decided to intervene.

    John Fife, pastor of the Southside Presbyterian Church in Tucson, Arizona, was one of the first to buck federal laws in favor of what he saw as a moral obligation to offer shelter to the vulnerable. He and a handful of other faith leaders started an underground network to smuggle refugees across the border to safety. The concept of “taking sanctuary” was quite literal. Central Americans, mostly families, were given shelter in the physical sanctuary of the church. At night, they would sleep between the pews.

    “‘Sanctuary’ is an idea. It’s an action that people have always taken throughout history to protect the victims of human rights violations,” said John Fife, pastor of the Southside Presbyterian Church in Tucson, Arizona. “It was a different phenomena back then.”

    Their defiance set up a major battle between church and state after the U.S. government infiltrated the movement. Fife was indicted in 1985, along with 10 other church workers, on a total of 71 counts that ranged from harboring illegal aliens to conspiracy. If the charges against church leaders were meant to have a chilling effect on sanctuary efforts, they did just the opposite. More than 500 faith groups would eventually sign onto the movement.

    http://www.msnbc.com/specials/migran...nctuary-cities

    https://americasvoice.org/blog/what-...anctuary-city/

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    There are 300-plus sanctuary cities and counties that do not cooperate with ICE and ignore requests that they detail criminal illegals for ICE arrest and deportation proceedings. That is a problem when there are thousands at our borders each day, many crossing illegally. It's a far cry more than a few churches who offer shelter.
    Why is it wrong to enforce the laws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    There are 300-plus sanctuary cities and counties that do not cooperate with ICE and ignore requests that they detail criminal illegals for ICE arrest and deportation proceedings. That is a problem when there are thousands at our borders each day, many crossing illegally. It's a far cry more than a few churches who offer shelter.
    Why is it wrong to enforce the laws?
    Like Tax fraud?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterWilson View Post
    Let's keep it straight, mmmmKAY!??

    Sanctuary cities” is actually a misnomer. While many Americans believe that it refers to a city that doesn’t prosecute immigrants, so-called “sanctuary cities” actually refer to something far more specific.

    There’s no single definition of what is a sanctuary city, but generally speaking, it’s a city (or a county, or a state) that limits its cooperation with federal immigration enforcement agents in order to protect low-priority immigrants from deportation, while still turning over those who have committed serious crimes. But in the spirit of America’s founding principles as a nation of immigrants, sanctuary cities act as a protective shield, standing in the way of federal efforts to pinpoint and deport people at random.

    Faith communities started what became known as the “Sanctuary Movement” in the early 1980s. It was a symbolic extension of the medieval practice of churches providing shelter to all, regardless of their crimes. But for a handful of faith leaders in the southwestern U.S., the immigrants that they provided sanctuary to weren’t outlaws. They were refugees.

    Central America was racked by nonstop violence and civil war, and death squads forced waves of people to flee north from Guatemala and El Salvador. Appalled to see the U.S. government turn away those migrants once they reached the border rather than take them in, church leaders decided to intervene.

    John Fife, pastor of the Southside Presbyterian Church in Tucson, Arizona, was one of the first to buck federal laws in favor of what he saw as a moral obligation to offer shelter to the vulnerable. He and a handful of other faith leaders started an underground network to smuggle refugees across the border to safety. The concept of “taking sanctuary” was quite literal. Central Americans, mostly families, were given shelter in the physical sanctuary of the church. At night, they would sleep between the pews.

    “‘Sanctuary’ is an idea. It’s an action that people have always taken throughout history to protect the victims of human rights violations,” said John Fife, pastor of the Southside Presbyterian Church in Tucson, Arizona. “It was a different phenomena back then.”

    Their defiance set up a major battle between church and state after the U.S. government infiltrated the movement. Fife was indicted in 1985, along with 10 other church workers, on a total of 71 counts that ranged from harboring illegal aliens to conspiracy. If the charges against church leaders were meant to have a chilling effect on sanctuary efforts, they did just the opposite. More than 500 faith groups would eventually sign onto the movement.

    http://www.msnbc.com/specials/migran...nctuary-cities

    https://americasvoice.org/blog/what-...anctuary-city/
    So you agree that they would be safe there and protect from ICE and deportation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASON View Post
    Like Tax fraud?
    Isn't it best to stay on topic??

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    Maybe Trump is talking about those who seek amnesty. Trump is not very precise with words or ideas. Most of what he says has to be translated from orange speak to English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump says they are rapists and murderers.
    I can't seem to find anywhere on the internet where Trump can be quoted saying these things. Please provide a link.
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    Actually the first sanctuary city in America I believe is NYC to which immigrants passed through Ellis Island over 100 years ago from Europe in particular. Yet it could go back further to Plymouth Rock, Mass. when the pilgrims made it their own sanctuary. It was also the native Americans who gave the pilgrims a sanctuary and taught them how to survive in the American wilderness. Yet the native American was eventually betrayed by their sanctuary guests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by survivor001 View Post
    Actually the first sanctuary city in America I believe is NYC to which immigrants passed through Ellis Island over 100 years ago from Europe in particular. Yet it could go back further to Plymouth Rock, Mass. when the pilgrims made it their own sanctuary. It was also the native Americans who gave the pilgrims a sanctuary and taught them how to survive in the American wilderness. Yet the native American was eventually betrayed by their sanctuary guests.
    STFU for chrissakes. I live in Hawaii part.time and native Hawaiians aren't complete fuck ups like Native Americans and Native Alaskans are as a whole. Hawaiians somehow integrated quite well with whites after they took their land. In fact Native Hawaiians have thrived.

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    What's the matter do facts offend you? Well consider the following and by the way STFU and read instead of running with a attitude of vicious ignorance:

    BLACK CIVILIZATIONS OF
    ANCIENT AMERICA (MUU-LAN),
    MEXICO (XI)

    Gigantic stone head of Negritic African
    during the Olmec (Xi) Civilization
    By Paul Barton
    www. raceandhistory. com /historicalviews /ancientamerica .htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    So you agree that they would be safe there and protect from ICE and deportation.
    The ones that aren’t fucking criminals? Probably safer than most of our ancestors were the first came to the United States generations ago. Probably a good thing they didn’t get thrown out or stop by some fucking wall otherwise you might be growing up in Yugoslavia or wherever the fuck your people are from.

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