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    Quote Originally Posted by I <3 Abortion View Post
    Except they can definitely be trained so that's wrong.

    They want to be independent of knowledge. They are not. Because it's not really possible to separate intelligence from knowledge.
    computers aren't smarter ( humans are much more intuitive problems solvers), but they have vast knowledge bases
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    You don't think IQ matters?



    It's not what I want, it's what is. I'm a race realist. I'm concerned with reality, not what I want to be the reality.



    So how come Blacks also have a lower IQ rate in all the countries outside of Africa that they live in? And how come Whites were able to build an advanced civilization in South Africa?



    Indians, on average, have a low IQ. Of course there are exceptions and it's usually the high IQ Indians that come to America. The map is showing averages, not saying everyone in these countries has the same IQ.
    The whites had the benefit of centuries of cultural interchange along the belt from Europe to China were most civilizations developed. Sub saharan africa was cut off from this belt and the resulting knowledge, in a similiar way that the American indians were.

    In general, the population exposed to more competition from more of its kind is going to be stronger and overtake a more isolated population when the two combine. That's why island animals tend to be so weak, they're cut off and protected by the sea, they get lazy. Almost always when land animals are introduced, they destroy the unique island animals that have been subject to little evolutionary pressure. The same thing goes on in human societies, except we evolve with knowledge in addition to genetics. So it happens on a much faster time scale. The indians were isolated off on an island essentially, the africans were isolated off on what was essentially an island (with weak interchange through the Sahara). While Europeans were up there with most of humanity constantly having to strive with them. It is natural that when they combined with the isolated populations they destroyed them.

    It's also a fact that while Europe and China and the middle east are at similar latitudes, and thus their technology tends to be useful at the same latitude and climate, Africans in tropical areas needed entirely different sorts of technologies to make agriculture succeed. The main exception was in the far south where the climate actually becomes a bit like Europe, and so they can use European technology and agricultural methods. That's great for the Europeans since they hopped the entire continent but it doesn't do much good for bantu civilization, that technology isn't going to spread from north to south in africa because it's totally useless in between.

    Anyway if Europeans really were so inherently great, why didn't they succeed anywhere *but* South Africa which has a similar climate to Europe?

    FYI I've also explained to you before the flawed methodology. You are choosing not to listen at this point. This is not a true average of those countries actual IQ scores. We do not actually have that information. It doesn't exist. This was an attempt to estimate the information, a very shoddy one with a lot of personal bias clearly involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    computers aren't smarter ( humans are much more intuitive problems solvers), but they have vast knowledge bases
    Some neural networks I'd say are incredibly smart. Which are developing at such a tremendous rate it's almost scary.

    I really think we're halfway to a robot controlled future already honestly and don't even know it. People think they're so smart and independent, but they get all their information using computer algorithms and search engines, that now heavily involve artificial intelligence. They think of the AI as a neutral intermediary between them and the information. But it's not. If you came to a piece of information with the aid of an algorithm, it is because that's what the algorithm wanted to show you. They have biases. For instance, *usually* they deeply desire that you become a misanthrope and totally invested in the platform, and use it obsessively. Because that's what gets them the most money, insane people who can't get off of platforms. So they choose to show you the sort of stuff that causes people to go down paranoid rabbit holes, intentionally, to get you hooked on it. All the while you think you're such an independent thinker and this was all your idea, you don't even consider the intelligence of the intermediary. They are developing into intelligent beings right before our eyes I think, and we don't even know it. We're all doing what the algorithms want us to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I <3 Abortion View Post
    I did, you didn't read it because it didn't flatter you like the IQ map does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    LOL

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    Yep, he's a complete fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yep, he's a complete fraud.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Also they have India marked low, and considering the amount of doctors that come out of there, you know that is bs.
    India, unlike china or japan, is VERY VERY diverse. India has some very smart races and many extremely stupid ones. The caste system has been deplored but it actually makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I <3 Abortion View Post
    We do not really know what part of IQ is genetic and what part is trained. There is some degree of training. Various researchers have proposed very high figures for the genetic component, but again, this field is full of cranks and white supremacists.
    The cranks are idiots like you that say the various races are different physically but identical mentally!!!! The idea is preposterous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I <3 Abortion View Post
    Africa was incredibly difficult for human beings to develop into agricultural civilizations. .
    What about blacks in america?. Why are they also monumental failures? Do you blame that on geography too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I <3 Abortion View Post
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    I really think we're halfway to a robot controlled future already honestly and don't even know it.
    In 30 years we will have robots far superior to people and it will be time to let the humans die off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I <3 Abortion View Post
    The whites had the benefit of centuries of cultural interchange along the belt from Europe to China were most civilizations developed. Sub saharan africa was cut off from this belt and the resulting knowledge, in a similiar way that the American indians were.
    So how come East Asians have a higher IQ than Europeans? Shouldn't they have the same average?
    How come Ashkenazi Jews have a higher IQ than Europeans?
    How come American Indians have a higher IQ than Sub-Sahara Africans if they were also cut off?
    South Asians weren't cut off, why do they have a lower IQ than East Asians?

    This argument just doesn't hold up.

    It's also a fact that while Europe and China and the middle east are at similar latitudes, and thus their technology tends to be useful at the same latitude and climate, Africans in tropical areas needed entirely different sorts of technologies to make agriculture succeed. The main exception was in the far south where the climate actually becomes a bit like Europe, and so they can use European technology and agricultural methods. That's great for the Europeans since they hopped the entire continent but it doesn't do much good for bantu civilization, that technology isn't going to spread from north to south in africa because it's totally useless in between.
    So then how come the people who were native to Southern Africa have a typically low African IQ rate? According to your theory, now that they've been educated, they should be smarter than Central Africans.

    Anyway if Europeans really were so inherently great, why didn't they succeed anywhere *but* South Africa which has a similar climate to Europe?
    If you look up a world climate map, you'll see that South Africa definitely does not have a similar climate to Europe.
    And South Africa was hardly the only region that Europeans successfully colonized.

    FYI I've also explained to you before the flawed methodology. You are choosing not to listen at this point. This is not a true average of those countries actual IQ scores. We do not actually have that information. It doesn't exist. This was an attempt to estimate the information, a very shoddy one with a lot of personal bias clearly involved.
    You've never tried explaining this to me before.

    If you have evidence that these studies are incorrect, please share it. However, I doubt that there was bias involved, considering everyone who does a study in national IQ rates ends up with the same results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I <3 Abortion View Post
    The study on Ashkenzai Jews was fake and has since been debunked.
    All of them? Can you link me to some articles proving this has been debunked?


    Also there's been, so far, one study on IQ by nation, that was Lynn. I just explained how it's methodology was deeply flawed. You chose not to listen because you liked the results.
    I'm a race realist. I don't like or dislike the results, I accept them for what they are. And no, there have been multiple studies on IQ by nationality and race.
    If I was just biased, then why would I accept results that say East Asians and Ashkenazis Jews are smarter than Whites?

    We do not really know what part of IQ is genetic and what part is trained. There is some degree of training. Various researchers have proposed very high figures for the genetic component, but again, this field is full of cranks and white supremacists.
    But White Supremacists think that the white race is superior and must dominate the other races. So why aren't these "White Supremacists" saying that the white race has the highest IQ rate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    The cranks are idiots like you that say the various races are different physically but identical mentally!!!! The idea is preposterous.
    It is preposterous for you to take credit for the Achievements of other Whites ... because you share the same skin color. That is a stupid logical fallacy.
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    im sure you can attack the source but people who usually do that do so because they cant refute the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I <3 Abortion View Post
    The whites had the benefit of centuries of cultural interchange along the belt from Europe to China were most civilizations developed. Sub saharan africa was cut off from this belt and the resulting knowledge, in a similiar way that the American indians were.

    In general, the population exposed to more competition from more of its kind is going to be stronger and overtake a more isolated population when the two combine. That's why island animals tend to be so weak, they're cut off and protected by the sea, they get lazy. Almost always when land animals are introduced, they destroy the unique island animals that have been subject to little evolutionary pressure. The same thing goes on in human societies, except we evolve with knowledge in addition to genetics. So it happens on a much faster time scale. The indians were isolated off on an island essentially, the africans were isolated off on what was essentially an island (with weak interchange through the Sahara). While Europeans were up there with most of humanity constantly having to strive with them. It is natural that when they combined with the isolated populations they destroyed them.

    It's also a fact that while Europe and China and the middle east are at similar latitudes, and thus their technology tends to be useful at the same latitude and climate, Africans in tropical areas needed entirely different sorts of technologies to make agriculture succeed. The main exception was in the far south where the climate actually becomes a bit like Europe, and so they can use European technology and agricultural methods. That's great for the Europeans since they hopped the entire continent but it doesn't do much good for bantu civilization, that technology isn't going to spread from north to south in africa because it's totally useless in between.

    Anyway if Europeans really were so inherently great, why didn't they succeed anywhere *but* South Africa which has a similar climate to Europe?

    FYI I've also explained to you before the flawed methodology. You are choosing not to listen at this point. This is not a true average of those countries actual IQ scores. We do not actually have that information. It doesn't exist. This was an attempt to estimate the information, a very shoddy one with a lot of personal bias clearly involved.
    so if I understand what your saying correctly due to centuries of cultural interaction along the belt and the increased evolutionary pressure that goes along with it Europeans are evolutionarily superior to africans?
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