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    Default McConnell Frames The Debate For 2020

    Move the cursor to 2:00 and listen to McConnell predict next year’s debate:



    Capitalism will win every debate hands down, but only if a majority of voters understand the basic premise:

    1. Capitalism is an economic system that works to perfection for the most people in a severely limited form of government.

    2. Socialism is a form of government that works for the least number of people.

    3. Socialism and capitalism are, and always will be, incompatible.

    Most important of all:

    4. Frame the debate in terms that will resonate with voters; i.e. Socialism and a free people cannot live side by side. One must disappear so the other can thrive.

    Finally, Democrats will try to get away with debating Socialist programs rather than debate the form of government they are demanding for everybody else. Media is on the side of Democrats; so it is up to opponents doing the debating who must not let Democrats get away blending the tax collector’s morality and Socialism’s form of government into a single debating topic. Starting here is essential:

    While Democrats must say Socialism, their opponents must always say Communism. In short: Democrats will be forced to doublespeak non-existent differences between the two.

    Trump could have, and should have, said “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A COMMUNIST COUNTRY.”

    Trump saying “Socialist” sounded good but it was a mistake because the public separates Socialism from Communism when there is only one difference between the two. Early Socialist planners planted the misconception in the late 19th century when they set out to acquire political power incrementally, while Communists preferred violent revolution.

    The intelligentsia knew the public would accept the word SOCIALISM, but never COMMUNISM because of the Soviet Union’s documented brutality; so the press and the teachers took the misconception to new heights in the 1930s when they laid down their most efficient lie to date —— Communism is good because Fascism is so bad. (Socialism is good because Fascism is so bad)

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    Huh, I wonder what all the rightwingWACKOz think of the RINO setting the agenda instead of their leader??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Huh, I wonder what all the rightwingWACKOz think of the RINO setting the agenda instead of their leader??
    To Bill: I think President Trump set the agenda when he said “America will never be a socialist country.” CONSERVATIVE-IN-NAME-ONLY McConnell picked it up and elaborated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    Democrats will be forced to doublespeak non-existent differences between the two.

    In any event I cannot wait to hear a Democrat doublespeak this claim:

    I’ll tell you this: I think any Democrat who ultimately wins the nomination is probably going to say, ‘Oh, of course, I’m a capitalist,'” McConnell replied. “But I think what we need to look at is what they’re advocating, not what they call themselves. And any Democrat who is sympathetic to packing the Supreme Court, getting rid of the Electoral College, the Green New Deal, Medicare for all is in my view taking America in the direction of socialism.”

    McConnell: We’re Seeing ‘Full Socialism on Display’ in the 2020 Dem Presidential Primaries
    by JEFF POOR
    10 Apr 2019

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019...ial-primaries/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    To Bill: I think President Trump set the agenda when he said “America will never be a socialist country.” CONSERVATIVE-IN-NAME-ONLY McConnell picked it up and elaborated.



    In any event I cannot wait to hear a Democrat doublespeak this claim:

    I’ll tell you this: I think any Democrat who ultimately wins the nomination is probably going to say, ‘Oh, of course, I’m a capitalist,'” McConnell replied. “But I think what we need to look at is what they’re advocating, not what they call themselves. And any Democrat who is sympathetic to packing the Supreme Court, getting rid of the Electoral College, the Green New Deal, Medicare for all is in my view taking America in the direction of socialism.”

    McConnell: We’re Seeing ‘Full Socialism on Display’ in the 2020 Dem Presidential Primaries
    by JEFF POOR
    10 Apr 2019

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019...ial-primaries/
    Maybe you will get lucky?? WHo knows??

    A rino drawing lines in the mud is hardly new now is it?? I am sure they will draw some orange lines in the mud as well & the world will still turn..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Review: 'Heaven on Earth: The Rise, Fall, and Afterlife of Socialism' by Joshua Muravchik

    Bumps Against Reality
    BY: Nick Clairmont
    April 14, 2019 5:00 am

    https://freebeacon.com/culture/bumps-against-reality/

    I am waiting for a book that challenges the forbidden topic:

    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    1. Capitalism is an economic system that works to perfection for the most people in a severely limited form of government.

    2. Socialism is a form of government that works for the least number of people.

    3. Socialism and capitalism are, and always will be, incompatible.
    I used to believe that defining Socialism as a religion was the best way to defeat that evil theological system. Now I not so sure. Relying on the First Amendment as a way to deny tax dollars to Socialists is still a sound approach, while defining Socialism as a form of government is beginning to look like a better way to accomplish the goal. In short: Taxpayers can shut down every form of Socialist spending without antagonizing every organized religion’s faithful, or invoking the First Amendment.


    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; . . .

    NOTE: Socialists are free to exercise their religion without tax dollars.

    In truth: Socialists treat the XVI Amendment like it is there personal poor box. So there is no reason for the faithful in the other religions to support Socialism with their tax dollars.
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    Interesting... Pls post a topic on it once you have read it, thnx
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    [B]Move the cursor to 2:00 and listen to McConnell predict next year’s debate:
    Capitalism will win every debate hands down, but only if a majority of voters understand the basic premise:

    1. Capitalism is an economic system that works to perfection for the most people in a severely limited form of government.

    2. Socialism is a form of government that works for the least number of people.

    3. Socialism and capitalism are, and always will be, incompatible.

    Most important of all:

    4. Frame the debate in terms that will resonate with voters; i.e. Socialism and a free people cannot live side by side. One must disappear so the other can thrive.

    Finally, Democrats will try to get away with debating Socialist programs rather than debate the form of government they are demanding for everybody else. Media is on the side of Democrats; so it is up to opponents doing the debating who must not let Democrats get away blending the tax collector’s morality and Socialism’s form of government into a single debating topic. Starting here is essential:

    While Democrats must say Socialism, their opponents must always say Communism. In short: Democrats will be forced to doublespeak non-existent differences between the two.

    Trump saying “Socialist” sounded good but it was a mistake because the public separates Socialism from Communism when there is only one difference between the two. Early Socialist planners planted the misconception in the late 19th century when they set out to acquire political power incrementally, while Communists preferred violent revolution.

    The intelligentsia knew the public would accept the word SOCIALISM, but never COMMUNISM because of the Soviet Union’s documented brutality; so the press and the teachers took the misconception to new heights in the 1930s when they laid down their most efficient lie to date —— Communism is good because Fascism is so bad.
    Every time they start discussing socialism it just reflects further how little they understand it or economics

    Socialism is not a "form of government" nor is it "incompatible" with capitalism

    To begin, America has been partially socialist since the 19th Century, and imagine that, we still have survived to build the greatest nation in the world. The dichotomy you are attempting to create doesn't exist anywhere in the world, every nation has a mixed economy including the United States

    Those in the Democrat Party that refer to themselves as socialist are calling for economic democracy, they see current aspects of capitalism conflicting with the values of democracy and are calling for a check on unbridled capitalism. It is really not that difficult a concept to understand, just think Martin Shkreli and apply it institutionally. They are not the Rosa Luxemburgs your demogogues portray them as

    And the rest of your rant is pure John Bircher type propaganda

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