Results 1 to 4 of 4

Thread: God & Gravity

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Posts
    3,668
    Thanks
    1,022
    Thanked 445 Times in 401 Posts
    Groans
    51
    Groaned 102 Times in 89 Posts

    Default God & Gravity

    I did not see this article when it was first published:



    Scientists close to first sighting of black hole in the Milky Way
    Hannah Devlin Science correspondent
    Fri 11 Jan 2019 01.00 EST

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...-the-milky-way

    God and black holes always fascinated me since scientists first told me that gravity’s pull in a black hole is so dense not even light can escape.

    Here is a bit of philosophical fluff that I used to play with:

    A manned space ship is flying along when it is instantly sucked into a black hole at the speed of light killing the crew.

    Here is the exercise for anyone who wants to bat it around:

    If you believe in any form of life after death can the essence that lives on after the body dies escape from the irresistible gravity in a black hole?

    If you have a life-in-the-hereafter turn of mind you have to be rooting for essence to escape because God created gravity —— or so says Thomas Aquinas’ prime mover theory.

    Gravity (from Latin gravitas, meaning 'weight', or gravitation, is a natural phenomenon by which all things with mass or energy—including planets, stars, galaxies, and even light—are brought toward (or gravitate toward) one another. On Earth, gravity gives weight to physical objects, and the Moon's gravity causes the ocean tides. The gravitational attraction of the original gaseous matter present in the Universe caused it to begin coalescing, forming stars – and for the stars to group together into galaxies – so gravity is responsible for many of the large-scale structures in the Universe. Gravity has an infinite range, although its effects become increasingly weaker on farther objects.

    Gravity is most accurately described by the general theory of relativity (proposed by Albert Einstein in 1915) which describes gravity not as a force, but as a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass. The most extreme example of this curvature of spacetime is a black hole, from which nothing—not even light—can escape once past the black hole's event horizon. However, for most applications, gravity is well approximated by Newton's law of universal gravitation, which describes gravity as a force which causes any two bodies to be attracted to each other, with the force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity

    There must be dozens of possibilities worth examining; most of them grounded in superstition. Have fun if you decide to explore any of them. Just do not let your equilibrium get sucked into a theological black hole.
    Last edited by Flanders; 04-07-2019 at 02:36 AM.
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

  2. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    7,950
    Thanks
    5,865
    Thanked 4,108 Times in 3,183 Posts
    Groans
    51
    Groaned 137 Times in 133 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    I am high enough that I first read the thread title as, "God and Gravy." My bad.

  3. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Posts
    3,668
    Thanks
    1,022
    Thanked 445 Times in 401 Posts
    Groans
    51
    Groaned 102 Times in 89 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    I am high enough that I first read the thread title as, "God and Gravy." My bad.

    To Controlled Opposition: You must be as high as a dirigible!
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

  4. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    58,187
    Thanks
    35,730
    Thanked 50,681 Times in 27,326 Posts
    Groans
    22
    Groaned 2,977 Times in 2,694 Posts

    Default

    The premise of the post is based on classical Newtonian physics.

    I am pretty sure the current state of science is that classical Newtonian physics do not work inside the event horizon of a black hole. Newtonian physics works for massive gravitational bodies, aka stars, galaxies, planets. A black hole is a infinitesimally small, highly dense object which is more at the scale of quantum physics.

    The theory that "nothing can escape a black hole" I believe is somewhat outdated, especially since quantum considerations came into play. I believe the current state of science is that black holes do not last forever, but are slowly leaking energy and dissipate at cosmological time scales. We would have to defer to professional physicists to be sure, and to have an accurate accounting of the current theories.

Similar Threads

  1. Brexit Meets Gravity
    By FUCK THE POLICE in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-11-2018, 10:20 AM
  2. hese Cool Energy Storage Trains Simply Work With the Power of Gravity
    By cancel2 2022 in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 12-20-2017, 05:59 AM
  3. A conservative explanation of the gravity of Don Jr's blunder,
    By archives in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 07-13-2017, 04:40 PM
  4. Gravity: An Honest Trailer
    By cancel2 2022 in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-20-2014, 05:33 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •