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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Most of the people with guns are backing a wannabe despot. Guns do not make you smarter.
    This is part of why an armed population is more likely to lead to a dictatorship. The people with lots of guns often support the conmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Wrong. When the Nazis came to power, the made it easier for people to buy and own guns, not harder.
    An armed citizenry is usually used to overthrow democracy and install a dictatorship. Again, that's what the Bolsheviks did in Russia, which created the Soviet Union.

    He's undermined journalists and any media that criticizes him as being "the enemy of the people." He's given family members positions of power. He's sided with other dictators, such as Putin and Salman, over the CIA. He worked with foreign powers to rig an election. He's called for violence against protesters. And he complains about how much better things "used to be."

    Now keep in mind, I'm not saying Trump is a Fascist. What I'm saying is that he does Fascist things and, maybe unintentionally, is causing a culture of Fascism. This is pulling America in the direction of Fascism.

    Are you referring to this quote?
    "While I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger ... and our actions will be even more effective if the strike is authorized by Congress."

    If Obama had the legal right to carry out military action without congress, then it doesn't make him Fascist to do so. The fact that he still wanted congress' approval means he respects checks and balances.
    Unless you're referring to something else.
    And you found this information,...……………….where??

    "...When the Nazis came to power, the made it easier for people to buy and own guns…"
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    This is part of why an armed population is more likely to lead to a dictatorship. The people with lots of guns often support the conmen.
    Since you were unable to support your assertion, regarding the size of a magazine; PLEASE show your supporting evidence, that you have regarding your comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Why do I have to keep providing "links" to conservatives to validate the obvious?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/stat...stacks-up.html
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is a left wing BAN guns agenda driven organization; their claims are not only moronic, but lies.

    Tonic? That's your spource? STFU Regurgitation of the agenda driven Center for Disease control.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Giffords Law service? STFU!

    USA Today quoting 24/7 Wall Street? STFU!!

    This anti-Gun web site is merely making the FALSE claim that if you make purchasing a gun really hard, fewer people will own guns. That is a pile of excrement as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And before you add the predictable "what about Chicago," check your map;

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0306110629.htm
    My favorite bullshit story about Chicago. Yeah you dumb fuck, the thugs on the South-side murdering themselves drive all the way to Indiana to buy their guns legally.

    You're too stupid and suffer from a severe lack of IQ to comprehend how stupid that is.

    FACTS instead of BULLshit:

    Here are eight stubborn facts to keep in mind about gun violence in America:

    [indent =3](1) Violent crime is down and has been on the decline for decades.[/indent]
    [indent =3](2) The principal public safety concerns with respect to guns are suicides and illegally owned handguns, not mass shootings.[/indent]
    [indent =3](3) A small number of factors significantly increase the likelihood that a person will be a victim of a gun-related homicide.[/indent]
    [indent =3](4) Gun-related murders are carried out by a predictable pool of people.[/indent]
    [indent =3](5) Higher rates of gun ownership are not associated with higher rates of violent crime.[/indent]
    [indent =3](6) There is no clear relationship between strict gun control legislation and homicide or violent crime rates.[/indent]
    [indent =3](7) Legally owned firearms are used for lawful purposes much more often than they are used to commit crimes or suicide.[/indent]
    [indent =3](8) Concealed carry permit holders are not the problem, but they may be part of the solution.[/indent]


    Read and become informed instead of being a moron:


    https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-j...olence-america
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    If there aren't any guns to kill people why would they need to crack down on speech that can incite violence? People can't do anything about it. No guns.
    This statement is historically stupid.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    As America proved, people will throw away their rights if they like a conman. Most of the people with guns are backing a wannabe despot. Guns do not make you smarter.
    Apparently NOTHING could make this statement smarter. It has to be one of the dumbest things I have read on the gun debate. :Laugh:
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    As America proved, people will throw away their rights if they like a conman. Most of the people with guns are backing a wannabe despot. Guns do not make you smarter.
    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    This is part of why an armed population is more likely to lead to a dictatorship. The people with lots of guns often support the conmen.
    PRICELESS!!! They don't come much dumber than this folks.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    PRICELESS!!! They don't come much dumber than this folks.
    Is New Zealand a totalitarian state yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    This is part of why an armed population is more likely to lead to a dictatorship. The people with lots of guns often support the conmen.
    Can you cite a single historical example of this?
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Is New Zealand a totalitarian state yet?
    Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments. Yay you!
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Can you cite a single historical example of this?
    American Revolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    American Revolution?
    This country has never been a dictatorship you idiot. Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Can you cite a single historical example of this?
    No he can't, just like he can't show that smaller gun magazines will save lives.

    He just likes throwing out shit and then runs away when his stupidity is challenged and shown to be in "error".

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    This is part of why an armed population is more likely to lead to a dictatorship. The people with lots of guns often support the conmen.
    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Can you cite a single historical example of this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    American Revolution?
    Are you saying that after the British surrendered, that a dictator was then put in office??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is a left wing BAN guns agenda driven organization; their claims are not only moronic, but lies.



    Tonic? That's your spource? STFU Regurgitation of the agenda driven Center for Disease control.



    Giffords Law service? STFU!



    USA Today quoting 24/7 Wall Street? STFU!!



    This anti-Gun web site is merely making the FALSE claim that if you make purchasing a gun really hard, fewer people will own guns. That is a pile of excrement as well.



    My favorite bullshit story about Chicago. Yeah you dumb fuck, the thugs on the South-side murdering themselves drive all the way to Indiana to buy their guns legally.

    You're too stupid and suffer from a severe lack of IQ to comprehend how stupid that is.

    FACTS instead of BULLshit:

    Here are eight stubborn facts to keep in mind about gun violence in America:

    [indent =3](1) Violent crime is down and has been on the decline for decades.[/indent]
    [indent =3](2) The principal public safety concerns with respect to guns are suicides and illegally owned handguns, not mass shootings.[/indent]
    [indent =3](3) A small number of factors significantly increase the likelihood that a person will be a victim of a gun-related homicide.[/indent]
    [indent =3](4) Gun-related murders are carried out by a predictable pool of people.[/indent]
    [indent =3](5) Higher rates of gun ownership are not associated with higher rates of violent crime.[/indent]
    [indent =3](6) There is no clear relationship between strict gun control legislation and homicide or violent crime rates.[/indent]
    [indent =3](7) Legally owned firearms are used for lawful purposes much more often than they are used to commit crimes or suicide.[/indent]
    [indent =3](8) Concealed carry permit holders are not the problem, but they may be part of the solution.[/indent]


    Read and become informed instead of being a moron:


    https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-j...olence-america
    What a surprise, "truthie" doesn't like the sources, notice he didn't offer any evidence to invalidate the sources, he just didn't like them so they got to be bogus, and to make it even more comical, he returns with "the Heritage," beautiful, might as well used the NRA as a source

    And the "all the way to Indiana" is less than an hour, duh, any entrepreneur with a trunk in his car can making a killing

    Crime is down, but mass shootings are up, way up, and the greatest "factor significantly increase the likelihood that a person will be a victim of a gun-related homicide" is having a gun present in one's environment.

    Perhaps there does exist a "a predictable pool of people," but we don't necessarily know who they are nor what their targets may be, but we do what tool they will use to execute their plans, and that is the easiest variable to control

    And if there is "no relationship between strict gun control legislation and homicide or violent crime rates" why is it that the majority of those States with stricter gun laws have fewer gun homicides than the opposite relationship?

    And I love to know how carrying is part of the solution when having more guns out there has proven not to reduce gun violence

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