New Zealand's semi-automatic rifle ban

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....look at the States today that have stricter gun laws and the majority also have less gun violence, and the opposite is also true, which is fine, let them slaughter each other with their toys

LINK please.

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Yeah, we're probably just going to have to wait for the Boomers to die out before we have sensible gun policies.

Why is that? The current generation is being indoctrinated rather than educated. Where do you think that will lead? Starts with an "F" and ends with an "m".

I'd feel the same way if there wasn't so many innocent people including kids that are getting killed because of this gun fetishism.

Does France have very strict gun laws? Yes or no?

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What gun control measures would have prevented the New Zealand tragedy?

Probably none, but if military-style weapons were banned, he at least wouldn't have been able to kill as many people.

[QUOTE]Doesn't Norway have extreme gun control? What measure would have prevented their mass shooting tragedy?

Not really extreme, but they do have stricter laws than America. They also have less mass shootings.

Las Vegas; what gun control measure would have prevented it?

Stephen Paddock was mentally ill but was still able to legally buy his guns. Maybe if it was illegal for the mentally ill to own guns, this wouldn't have happened.
We should also be treating the mentally ill, but that's another issue.

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Probably none, but if military-style weapons were banned, he at least wouldn't have been able to kill as many people.

Aren't they banned in Norway? France?

Not really extreme, but they do have stricter laws than America. They also have less mass shootings.

Their population also smaller than that of the city of Los Angeles or New York City. Dunce.

Yet, they had a terrible mass shooting which resulted in 77 deaths.

Stephen Paddock was mentally ill but was still able to legally buy his guns. Maybe if it was illegal for the mentally ill to own guns, this wouldn't have happened.
We should also be treating the mentally ill, but that's another issue.

That is a LIE and LAME. Paddock has not been treated nor diagnosed with any mental disease prior to the shooting. It is currently ILLEGAL to purchase arms if you have a history of mental disorder snowflake.

You might want to become informed before you bloviate like an uninformed idiot.

Answer the questions; what gun laws would have prevented the tragedies in Norway or France? In France the terrorists used fully automatic weapons and hand grenades. How could that be? Aren't they illegal?

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Why is that? The current generation is being indoctrinated rather than educated. Where do you think that will lead? Starts with an "F" and ends with an "m".

Every generation gets indoctrinated, but every generation is also more educated than the last. This is why America has always moved towards the Left. At one point, women voting was a radical left-wing stance. Today it's the norm.

Does France have very strict gun laws? Yes or no?

No.

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Every generation gets indoctrinated, but every generation is also more educated than the last. This is why America has always moved towards the Left. At one point, women voting was a radical left-wing stance. Today it's the norm.

I don't see a lot of evidence that YOU, or this generation are very educated. What evidence do you have to support such stupidity?

No.

WRONG. If you can't even get this much right, how can we expect to have an intelligent debate? You'd have to be educated first.

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That is historically false and moronic. It is the exact opposite. The first thing authoritarian states do is take arms away from the citizens. An armed citizenry is dangerous to totalitarians. Do you think Kim Jung wants an armed populace? How about China?

Wrong. When the Nazis came to power, the made it easier for people to buy and own guns, not harder.
An armed citizenry is usually used to overthrow democracy and install a dictatorship. Again, that's what the Bolsheviks did in Russia, which created the Soviet Union.

Really? What has Trump done that is Fascist?

He's undermined journalists and any media that criticizes him as being "the enemy of the people." He's given family members positions of power. He's sided with other dictators, such as Putin and Salman, over the CIA. He worked with foreign powers to rig an election. He's called for violence against protesters. And he complains about how much better things "used to be."

Now keep in mind, I'm not saying Trump is a Fascist. What I'm saying is that he does Fascist things and, maybe unintentionally, is causing a culture of Fascism. This is pulling America in the direction of Fascism.

So words strike fear into the hearts of low IQ liberals? What did you think when Obama stated he didn't need Congress? Were you okay with that?

Are you referring to this quote?
"While I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger ... and our actions will be even more effective if the strike is authorized by Congress."

If Obama had the legal right to carry out military action without congress, then it doesn't make him Fascist to do so. The fact that he still wanted congress' approval means he respects checks and balances.
Unless you're referring to something else.

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Aren't they banned in Norway? France?



Their population also smaller than that of the city of Los Angeles or New York City. Dunce.

Yet, they had a terrible mass shooting which resulted in 77 deaths.



That is a LIE and LAME. Paddock has not been treated nor diagnosed with any mental disease prior to the shooting. It is currently ILLEGAL to purchase arms if you have a history of mental disorder snowflake.

You might want to become informed before you bloviate like an uninformed idiot.

Answer the questions; what gun laws would have prevented the tragedies in Norway or France? In France the terrorists used fully automatic weapons and hand grenades. How could that be? Aren't they illegal?

I'm not going to continue if you're going to try to turn this into a flame war. There is a flame war section on the board where you can go for that.

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I don't see a lot of evidence that YOU, or this generation are very educated.

That's because you live in a bubble. Whenever you hear opinions or facts that sound foreign to your small world, you get angry and name-call.

WRONG. If you can't even get this much right, how can we expect to have an intelligent debate? You'd have to be educated first.

Which parts of France's gun control would you say are very strict?

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I'm not going to continue if you're going to try to turn this into a flame war. There is a flame war section on the board where you can go for that.

Wrong; I am not going to continue to try to debate a whiny know-nothing who does nothing but lie and bloviate like a moron. You really are a waste of bandwidth snowflake.

Advice to you; do a little fact checking before you emotionally erupt like a moron and turn of MSNBC. You're IQ might go up.

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That's because you live in a bubble.

This from a low IQ dullard that sounds like an MSNBC talk show? STFU.

Whenever you hear opinions or facts that sound foreign to your small world, you get angry and name-call.

Wrong; when I see someone who doesn't have any facts lying like a dumbass and parroting false narratives, I call them as I see them.

Which parts of France's gun control would you say are very strict?

Which parts do you think are not strict? Moron.

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LINK please.

Why do I have to keep providing "links" to conservatives to validate the obvious?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/stat...stacks-up.html
https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article...s-and-suicides
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/scorecard/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-up/359395002/
https://www.vox.com/2018/11/13/17658...-laws-licenses

And before you add the predictable "what about Chicago," check your map;

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0306110629.htm

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Fair enough. How long do you think it will take before New Zealand is a totalitarian state?

Can't ever predict these things. But you haven't commented that now they are cracking down on speech. Easy to do when the public is unarmed.

If there aren't any guns to kill people why would they need to crack down on speech that can incite violence? People can't do anything about it. No guns.

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Can't ever predict these things. But you haven't commented that now they are cracking down on speech. Easy to do when the public is unarmed.

If there aren't any guns to kill people why would they need to crack down on speech that can incite violence? People can't do anything about it. No guns.[/QUOTE]

Actually, this is an interesting point. The semi-auto ban didn't go into effect yet and plenty of people still have their guns. Yet the government was able to crack down on free speech. Having guns isn't stopping the government. The truth is, having guns doesn't stop the government from taking away freedom. It never worked in the past, it wouldn't work now.

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If there aren't any guns to kill people why would they need to crack down on speech that can incite violence? People can't do anything about it. No guns.

Actually, this is an interesting point. The semi-auto ban didn't go into effect yet and plenty of people still have their guns. Yet the government was able to crack down on free speech. Having guns isn't stopping the government. The truth is, having guns doesn't stop the government from taking away freedom. It never worked in the past, it wouldn't work now.[/QUOTE]

As America proved, people will throw away their rights if they like a conman. Most of the people with guns are backing a wannabe despot. Guns do not make you smarter.