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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    At you least you admitted to the insult fallacy. You also admitted that you have no argument to make.
    It's not a fallacy because I wasn't trying to make an argument. I was saying I'm done with the discussion because the other party has given up making arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I reject the idea of a 'first world' and a 'third world' (is there a 'second' world') country.
    The second world countries are generally the countries still recovering from Communism, such as Ukraine and Belarus.

    There are other ways to categorize countries, but just for simplicity's sake, we can say that America and New Zealand are both among the richest and freest countries in the world.

    New Zealand is already not free. They have taken further freedoms by instituting gun control laws.
    Yes, but the typical pro-gun argument is that an increase in gun control leads to a loss of all the other freedoms, such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, democratic elections, and so on.
    None of that has happened in New Zealand yet. Australia also has strict gun control and they also didn't become a totalitarian country like Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Did you forget that "rude" is subjective and that I've already explained that to you.
    Sure, but most adults will agree that name-calling is rude, especially when completely unprovoked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I didn't insult anyone. I called out rudeness, but I didn't name-call, I didn't resort to flaming.
    Liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Not flaming anyone. But if someone is being rude and ignoring points, I'm going to let them know that's why I've lost interest.
    There are plenty of other people on this board that are just hear to fight. USFREEDOM911 can reply to any of them.
    Liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    It's not a fallacy because I wasn't trying to make an argument. I was saying I'm done with the discussion because the other party has given up making arguments.
    You have lost context. Done here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I didn't insult anyone. I called out rudeness, but I didn't name-call, I didn't resort to flaming.
    Bullshit.

    I even told you that I found some of your comments as being rude and yes, you were flaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Not flaming anyone. But if someone is being rude and ignoring points, I'm going to let them know that's why I've lost interest.
    There are plenty of other people on this board that are just hear to fight. USFREEDOM911 can reply to any of them.
    You're not replying; because I totally destroyed your hypocrisy about it being about "safety".

    Plus it's your MO to try to present shit as FACT and then when you can't defend your own stance, you run and hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Sure, but most adults will agree that name-calling is rude, especially when completely unprovoked.
    And yet, you ignore you're own rudeness; because you justify it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The second world countries are generally the countries still recovering from Communism, such as Ukraine and Belarus.

    There are other ways to categorize countries, but just for simplicity's sake, we can say that America and New Zealand are both among the richest and freest countries in the world.
    New Zealand has a gross domestic product of $205 billion. The United States has a gross domestic product of $19 trilliion (2018 figures). 205 billion is considerably less than 19 trillion, dude.
    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Yes, but the typical pro-gun argument is that an increase in gun control leads to a loss of all the other freedoms, such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, democratic elections, and so on.
    No one ever made that argument. You are making crap up again. Gun control IS a loss of freedom, in and of itself. THAT is the argument being made. Pay attention.
    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    None of that has happened in New Zealand yet. Australia also has strict gun control and they also didn't become a totalitarian country like Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.
    Australia is an oligarchy, just like New Zealand. An oligarchy IS a totalitarian nation. It is dictatorship by committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Sure, but most adults will agree that name-calling is rude, especially when completely unprovoked.
    Then stop calling people names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Then stop calling people names.
    Who did I call a name? Are you just trolling now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Who did I call a name? Are you just trolling now?
    Don't play innocent with me. Anyone can go back through your posts and see what I'm talking about. They don't have to look far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Don't play innocent with me. Anyone can go back through your posts and see what I'm talking about. They don't have to look far.
    He is a perfect example of those who are to blind to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    He is a perfect example of those who are to blind to see.

    Not only too blind, but he also simply denies what he himself has said. Yeah, the facepalm emoji fits. He doesn't even realize his post itself is a paradox. Asking me when he called someone a name and calling me a troll in the same breath. Sheesh.

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