SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
If you look at the various rates of homicide from all causes vs gun control laws, you will find there really is correlation at all. Gun control laws do not reduce homicide rates, and availability of guns do not increase them.
In Lousiana, for example, they have few gun control laws there, and the homicide rate is pretty high. In Alaska, the homicide rate is quite low, and they have even few gun control laws there as well.
In California, where gun control laws are quite strong, homicide rates there are not as high as Louisiana, but they are quite a bit higher than Alaska.
The same thing happens internationally.
If people want to kill each other, they will do so, whether they have access to guns or not.
The United States enjoys a fairly low homicide rate, yet has millions of guns available. Canada has strict gun control laws, and also enjoys a low homicide rate.
Switzerland actually requires private gun ownership, yet they enjoy a very low homicide rate. Honduras also has easy access to guns, and they suffer a very high homicide rate.
The idea that gun control laws reduce homicide is falsified. The idea that easy access to guns reduces or increases homicide rates is also falsified.
Tkaffen (04-23-2019)
The liberty to carry a weapon to defend yourself of your own choosing.
The Constitution of the United States IS absolute. The federal government has NO power to ignore it or change it. The 2nd amendment applies to all States as well. No State has the authority to ignore the 2nd amendment without essentially leaving the Union and ceasing to be a State at all.
Guns can NOT be legally regulated by the federal government, any State, any county, or any city. The 2nd amendment is absolute and clear. It describes two rights, both of which are natural rights, and specifically prohibits any government from interfering with it.
The ban on machine guns is illegal. The 2nd amendment does NOT list arms by type of action on them. The bans on the AR-15 are illegal. The 2nd amendment does NOT list arms by type. The ban on magazine size is illegal. The 2nd amendment does NOT list magazine size.
Unless a constitution specifically gives a government the power to regulate something, it does NOT have that power!
To answer your question, liberty IS about freedom.
Definition of liberty (Merriam Webster)
(Entry 1 of 2)
1 : the quality or state of being free:
a : the power to do as one pleases
b : freedom from physical restraint
c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic (see despot sense 1) control
d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges
e : the power of choice
While dictionaries do not define words, they do document how people define and use them to a certain degree. Dictionaries are useful in this way, but they are not authoritative over any word.
You are making the argument yet again that the Constitution is a 'living document'. That it's meaning changes with the times. This is FALSE. A constitution that 'changes' in this way doesn't effectively exist. A constitution can ONLY be changed by the owners of the constitution (for the federal constitution, that would be the States), and ONLY in the manner described in the Constitution itself.
Last edited by Into the Night; 04-23-2019 at 05:42 PM.
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USFREEDOM911 (04-23-2019)
He is intentionally trying his best to ignore this argument. He is chanting like a religious fanatic.
Gun control, the Church of Global Warming, the Church of Green, and the Church of the Ozone Hole ALL stem from the Church of Karl Marx. All of these religions are fundamentalist in nature. They ignore anything that goes against their religion.
Quite right. He is lying. He doesn't want to have a discussion. He wants to prove his religion. He cares not for anyone's opinions or arguments other than his own chanting. He is a member of the Church of Gun Control, and through it, a member of the Church of Karl Marx.
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