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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    No, I don't think it's dictatorial or a punishment. But even if you do, this would only be one thing. So when will New Zealand have a real dictatorship due to their new gun control?
    No. They will remain an oligarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    What's sensible about punishing law abiding citizens, for the actions of a minuscule few criminals?
    Precisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    What's sensible about punishing law abiding citizens, for the actions of a minuscule few criminals?
    It's not about punishing anyone, it's about keeping guns away from dangerous people and dangerous situations.
    When you take a knife away from a child who wants to play with it, you're not punishing the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    New Zealand is a "constitutional" monarchy. That means they have no effective constitution are an oligarchy, or dictatorship by committee. That committee has the authority to change the "constitution" by itself anytime it wants to.
    So when will New Zealand be a dictatorship now that they have gun control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No. They will remain an oligarchy.
    So gun control won't result in New Zealanders losing their freedom. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    It's not about punishing anyone, it's about keeping guns away from dangerous people and dangerous situations.
    When you take a knife away from a child who wants to play with it, you're not punishing the child.
    When you take a knife away from a cook because a child misused one, you are punishing the cook for the actions of a child.

    That's what gun control laws do. You punish law abiding citizens that don't shoot up malls, theaters, or schools for the actions of someone that did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    So when will New Zealand be a dictatorship now that they have gun control?
    An oligarchy is a dictatorship. It is dictatorship by committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    So gun control won't result in New Zealanders losing their freedom. Interesting.
    They don't have freedom. New Zealand is not a republic. It is an oligarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    They don't have freedom. New Zealand is not a republic. It is an oligarchy.
    They're a mostly free country like America.

    When you take a knife away from a cook because a child misused one, you are punishing the cook for the actions of a child.
    How about when you take a knife away from a child because you don't want to take the chance that the child might misuse it? Is that punishing the child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    It's not about punishing anyone, it's about keeping guns away from dangerous people and dangerous situations.
    When you take a knife away from a child who wants to play with it, you're not punishing the child.
    We're not talking about taking knives from children. Of course it's about punishment.
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    We're not talking about taking knives from children. Of course it's about punishment.
    That's how you choose to see it. What I'm saying is that it's not about punishment, it's about safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    That's how you choose to see it. What I'm saying is that it's not about punishment, it's about safety.
    Taking away the right to self defend is about safety? What, the safety of murderers and rapists? Libs love them some murderers and rapists, you even want them to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Taking away the right to self defend is about safety? What, the safety of murderers and rapists?
    I'm pretty sure most of the people killed in those shootings aren't murderers or rapists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I'm pretty sure most of the people killed in those shootings aren't murderers or rapists.
    That's the problem with you people, you're ignorant as fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    When you take a knife away from a cook because a child misused one, you are punishing the cook for the actions of a child.

    That's what gun control laws do. You punish law abiding citizens that don't shoot up malls, theaters, or schools for the actions of someone that did.
    Actually, it is for a large part exactly those "law abiding citizens" who shoot up malls, theaters, or schools, they are "law abiding citizens" till they pull the trigger, Stephen Paddock was a "law biding citizen" until he set record numbers for shooting and killing Americans

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