Kamala Harris wants to give teachers raises .

[PostmodernProphet]

You found that in what I wrote? Fucking amazing. She is trying to back teachers and a president urging higher salaries would be quite helpful to changing wage structures.

no, I found it in what she said.....as usual, you're pretty much irrelevant......she wants teachers to get higher salaries using federal funds.......

[PostmodernProphet]

47bpercent in Detroit with a terrible schools system is not the whole country.

agreed......and its not the whole country's problem to solve........the federal government should not take over local schools..........the fact they keep intruding IS part of the problem.......

[Legion]

How would what she proposes get her any more votes than she'd already get?

Some greedy union teachers who are normally too lazy to vote might be swayed by her empty promises.

[Legion]

If you're talking about public schools K through 8th. grade, I'd say most really are dedicated.

That's one opinion.

[TOP]

That's one opinion.

Most are dedicated...that's two opinions

[Legion]

That is repulsive and wrong. people care a lot more about their jobs than apparently, you do. People try and do a good job. Teachers are professionals and work hard keeping up with changing teaching techniques. They require regular schooling and training. 47bpercent in Detroit with a terrible schools system is not the whole country. If you think that backs up brain dead Vasquezsucks, you are wrong. You should go back to school.

So you say.

The leftist Guardian relies on data that makes a mockery of your assertions.

Spending per student exceeds the OECD average but the likes of Finland and South Korea get better results.

the US spent an average of $16,268 a year to educate a pupil from primary through tertiary education, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s (OECD) annual report of education indicators, well above the global average of $10,759.

All that money does not appear to be translating into better results for US students. According to the National Center on Education and the Economy (NCEE), the average student in Singapore is 3.5 years ahead of her US counterpart in math, 1.5 years ahead in reading and 2.5 in science. Children in countries as diverse as Canada, China, Estonia, Germany, Finland, Netherland, New Zealand and Singapore consistently outrank their US counterparts on the basics of education.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/07/us-education-spending-finland-south-korea


Throwing money at the politically-powerful teachers unions doesn't appear to be producing benefits for children. Maybe that's why they oppose testing that exposes their ideology-over-education approach.

[Legion]

Most are dedicated...that's two opinions

Two opinions and and a couple of bucks will get you a cup of coffee. Two opinions by themselves won't get you anything.

[Legion]

A president urging higher salaries would be quite helpful to changing wage structures.

Who told you that?

[TOP]

Two opinions and and a couple of bucks will get you a cup of coffee. Two opinions by themselves won't get you anything.

OK

[Nordberg]

Harris plan would help in teacher retention. 40 percent leave the profession within 5 years. It would encourage people to take education classes and get degrees Teacher salaries have to be competitive. Teacher salaries are at or below 2008 levels. Harris is correct.

[Nordberg]

agreed......and its not the whole country's problem to solve........the federal government should not take over local schools..........the fact they keep intruding IS part of the problem.......

The feds should set standards for schools to achieve. You should be able to move from state to state and get a comparable education. States rights invariably result in lowering the overall quality of anything it is allowed into. Like banking. Allowing credit card companies and banks to cross lines resulting in weakening the rights of consumers across the nation. A couple states gutted usury rules and allowed banks freedom to gouge. Every bank pretended to move headquarters there so they could get the breaks and loot us all.
We are a nation and standards should be the same across the country.

[Nordberg]

no, I found it in what she said.....as usual, you're pretty much irrelevant......she wants teachers to get higher salaries using federal funds.......

Why does it fucking matter where the funds come from? Why is that putting a bee in your sphincter? Do rightys hate everything?

[PostmodernProphet]

Why does it fucking matter where the funds come from?

because lib'rul cunts can't keep their fucking noses out of state's rights.......

[Nordberg]

because lib'rul cunts can't keep their fucking noses out of state's rights.......

Have someone read and explain post 41 for you. States rights is a rush to the bottom and a gift to the wealthy and corporations. YIt is sophistical. In practice, harmful to the people.

[Flash]

The feds should set standards for schools to achieve. You should be able to move from state to state and get a comparable education. States rights invariably result in lowering the overall quality of anything it is allowed into. Like banking. Allowing credit card companies and banks to cross lines resulting in weakening the rights of consumers across the nation. A couple states gutted usury rules and allowed banks freedom to gouge. Every bank pretended to move headquarters there so they could get the breaks and loot us all.
We are a nation and standards should be the same across the country.

States' rights gave us lawyers for defendants long before the Supreme Court mandated it and their decision was based partially on the fact that so many states already provided them, states' rights gave us gay marriage long before the Supreme Court mandated it and mentioned its growing acceptance among the states, states gave us legalization of marijuana while the federal government still makes it illegal and half-ass enforces the law, states' right gave us universal healthcare, states' rights gave us term limits on legislative seats, states' rights gave us public funding for elections, states' rights gave us legalized abortion long before Roe v. Wade, states' rights gave us death with dignity for the terminally ill, states' rights gave us rape shield laws, states' rights gave us shield laws protecting sources of journalists, states' right gave us laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual preference which do not exist in federal civil rights laws.......

I am not making an argument for or against any of these policies, only arguing that states are often more progressive than the federal government and their leadership actually results in the federal government adopting these policies.