"Supreme Court rules Constitution doesn't guarantee "painless" execution"

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"The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 along ideological lines Monday that the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution, which prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment," does not mean death row inmates are guaranteed a "painless" execution"

"Russell Bucklew, a convicted murderer sentenced to death 22 years ago, argued that a rare medical condition he has would make lethal injection extremely painful. Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote that Bucklew failed to propose an alternative method of capital punishment that would be less painful, arguing that it shouldn't be a difficult task unless the inmate is simply seeking to delay his execution."

https://www.axios.com/supreme-court-...4ff6c7e0b.html

Now this is a bit confusing, how is a painful execution not cruel? I suppose Gorsuch has some legal thinking here, but because the guy couldn't offer a substitute method, or, since he might be seeking ways of delaying his execution doesn't seem to quite rationalize his execution as not being cruel

Would have loved to see Thomas' opinion, well, if he wrote something other than his usual stated concurrence

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the term "cruel" is subjective. It clearly is not unconstitutional to have the death penalty because we have had that amendment, unchanged, since it's inception.

[Stretch]

Isn't the inmate first injected with some form of anesthesia? Then once they're "out" (can't feel pain), the lethal injection is given, no?
I really don't know so I'm just asking.

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"The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 along ideological lines Monday that the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution, which prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment," does not mean death row inmates are guaranteed a "painless" execution"

"Russell Bucklew, a convicted murderer sentenced to death 22 years ago, argued that a rare medical condition he has would make lethal injection extremely painful. Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote that Bucklew failed to propose an alternative method of capital punishment that would be less painful, arguing that it shouldn't be a difficult task unless the inmate is simply seeking to delay his execution."

https://www.axios.com/supreme-court-...4ff6c7e0b.html

Now this is a bit confusing, how is a painful execution not cruel? I suppose Gorsuch has some legal thinking here, but because the guy couldn't offer a substitute method, or, since he might be seeking ways of delaying his execution doesn't seem to quite rationalize his execution as not being cruel

Would have loved to see Thomas' opinion, well, if he wrote something other than his usual stated concurrence

Fuck it! Go back to using the guillotine. Quick and relatively painless.

[Bigdog]

Sending anyone to prison is cruel.

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the term "cruel" is subjective. It clearly is not unconstitutional to have the death penalty because we have had that amendment, unchanged, since it's inception.

Perhaps, but you can't cite me many forms of execution that aren't "cruel" regardless of how you define the word

[Sailor]

"The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 along ideological lines Monday that the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution, which prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment," does not mean death row inmates are guaranteed a "painless" execution"

"Russell Bucklew, a convicted murderer sentenced to death 22 years ago, argued that a rare medical condition he has would make lethal injection extremely painful. Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote that Bucklew failed to propose an alternative method of capital punishment that would be less painful, arguing that it shouldn't be a difficult task unless the inmate is simply seeking to delay his execution."

https://www.axios.com/supreme-court-...4ff6c7e0b.html

Now this is a bit confusing, how is a painful execution not cruel? I suppose Gorsuch has some legal thinking here, but because the guy couldn't offer a substitute method, or, since he might be seeking ways of delaying his execution doesn't seem to quite rationalize his execution as not being cruel

Would have loved to see Thomas' opinion, well, if he wrote something other than his usual stated concurrence

I am old school when it comes to this. Personally I could care less how much they suffer. Anyone convicted of the death penalty should be handed over to the family of the victim to inflict the death part of the sentence. As long as they want it to take.

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Fuck it! Go back to using the guillotine. Quick and relatively painless.

It wasn't really all that quick, due to inefficiency and a dull blade, it often took more than on attempt

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Perhaps, but you can't cite me many forms of execution that aren't "cruel" regardless of how you define the word

Yes I can. none are cruel

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I am old school when it comes to this. Personally I could care less how much they suffer. Anyone convicted of the death penalty should be handed over to the family of the victim to inflict the death part of the sentence. As long as they want it to take.

Hammurabi's Code, but I kind of think we've come some ways in the last four millenniums, although a lot of it is still practiced in the Middle East

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Yes I can. none are cruel

So you want to resort back to stoning to death those found guilty of adultery

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Found this info...............

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/state-lethal-injection

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So you want to resort back to stoning to death those found guilty of adultery

those are two separate issues

A) do I approve of that specific method of execution

B) for the specific crime you listed

[Sailor]

Hammurabi's Code, but I kind of think we've come some ways in the last four millenniums, although a lot of it is still practiced in the Middle East

True. At a cost however. In the M.E. and other countries the death penalty is an actual deterrent. The "civilized" nations have taken that out of it.

[Celticguy]

Good news. .45 inserted into the head is quick, cheap, highly effective and hardly hurts at all.