America Not Great. Life Expectancy Declines Since Trump Elected: Suicides, Drug Abuse

[StoneByStone]

I'm tired of chicken liberals screaming that the sky is falling and conservatives are causing it.

I think it's fair to say that both sides exaggerate how bad the other side is. Look at how many Conservatives use fear-mongering. They paint Liberals out as baby-killers who want to exterminate Christians. Obama was accused of being a Communist Muslim who planned on taking the guns and setting up death panels. While that might make a good movie, it's fucking insane to accuse him of that.

You want to cut down on so-called Trump induced suicides? Stop making him out to be the anti-Christ!

I don't know if I mentioned it before, but I don't think Trump is solely responsible for the rise in suicides. But the same way some Liberals are blaming it completely on him, most Conservatives are totally ignoring the role he's playing. Trickle down economics fails every single time. I wish the Right would just accept this instead of acting like if they admit they were wrong, the "other team" wins.
Trump's policies actually are causing the rise in suicides. However, there are plenty of other factors.

[Old Trapper]

I am one of those veterans who served their country, in two wars. We are not talking about those tortured souls(who are, unfortunately and not by any fault of their own, mentally ill). We are discussing depressed white, drug addicted alcoholic men who evidently voted for Trump and then committed suicide. I feel safe calling them nuts because I don't think there are any of them out there, and if any of you little lefty twinkle puffs out there want to self identify as suicidal white male alcoholic drug addicts who voted for Trump, I got a message for you: You're nuttier than a squirrel turd. Put down the crack pipe, dump the booze down the drain(or give it to me, I drink responsibly), get a hobby and join a 12 step program(no joke, they work, one of the reasons my dad lived a long life). How can you let ANY politician live rent free in your head like that?

Tell me something ass hat, how can one like you be so fucking stupid you cannot understand what I wrote? I served from '62 to '65, quit doing drugs in '69, quit coffee in '71, quit drinking in '79, quit smoking in 2014. I have three brothers all of which used AA to quit. I love to fish, travel, and garden.

Now tell me fool, what has that to do with Trump cutting the funding for drug treatment programs, and mental health programs?

Your post sounds like you still have a drug/alcohol problem. Or is it just mental illness.

[reagansghost]

People are finding life increasingly depressing in Trump's America.

In some cases, just too depressing to want to live.

Suicides are up.

Drug abuse is up.

Alcoholism up.

It doesn't seem like Trump is making America great at all.

He seems to be making America a very depressing place to live.

Wall Street is doing great.

Main Street, not so good.

Where are the good secure jobs with good benefits he promised?

Many people are finding the American Dream just too elusive.

Under President Trump's leadership, they have lost hope, lost the will to live.

It's so sad having this narcissistic conman in the White House.

We have little to look up to besides hatred and vitriol.

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Life Expectancy In Decline

America will soon need to deal with Trump Country refugees, maybe chain link pens under NYC overpasses?

[PoliTalker]

Hello reagansghost,

America will soon need to deal with Trump Country refugees, maybe chain link pens under NYC overpasses?

He's making immigration worse on purpose to motivate his base. He cut off funding for anti-drug trafficking programs in Central America. There was no crisis until he created one.

[Stretch]

Hello reagansghost,



He's making immigration worse on purpose to motivate his base. He cut off funding for anti-drug trafficking programs in Central America. There was no crisis until he created one.

hahaha! tell that same thing to the last few presidents as well...hypocrite.

[PoliTalker]

From the OP link: "Experts aren’t entirely sure what’s driving this trend but cite financial problems, the current hostile political climate, and a general sense of hopelessness."

Well seeing as how millions of Americans are regularly broke, and couldn't produce $400 if they needed it right away, living paycheck to paycheck, sometimes going hungry, many despite hard work, it is understandable they would feel a general sense of hopelessness.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Stretch,

hahaha! tell that same thing to the last few presidents as well...hypocrite.

If you look at the charts, immigration has been in general decline. The increase began after Trump called it a crisis. What did he know when and why? Maybe he has been lying that he's trying to reduce it, saying one thing but doing another, as he actually sets policy to increase immigration...

This would serve to cement his base behind him and all he has to do is publicly whip up hatred against immigrants. Let's don't just put him past this. After all, he IS a conman.

[Stretch]

Hello Stretch,



If you look at the charts, immigration has been in general decline. The increase began after Trump called it a crisis. What did he know when and why? Maybe he has been lying that he's trying to reduce it, saying one thing but doing another, as he actually sets policy to increase immigration...

This would serve to cement his base behind him and all he has to do is publicly whip up hatred against immigrants. Let's don't just put him past this. After all, he IS a conman.

well doh! Our economy is gangbusters, of course they want in.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Stretch,

well doh! Our economy is gangbusters, of course they want in.

Guess again.

The economy is doing OK.

It was doing OK before Trump was elected.

[Stretch]

yeah, right.

[tinfoil]

Good lord, blaming life expectancy figures on the president. Can you get more retarded?

[Callinectes]

[QUOTE]

Tell me something ass hat, how can one like you be so fucking stupid you cannot understand what I wrote? I served from '62 to '65, quit doing drugs in '69, quit coffee in '71, quit drinking in '79, quit smoking in 2014. I have three brothers all of which used AA to quit. I love to fish, travel, and garden.

So I guess I nailed it, huh?

Now tell me fool, what has that to do with Trump cutting the funding for drug treatment programs, and mental health programs?

Nothing. But you should start a thread on the subject if you're that passionate about it. This one is about depressed white, drug addicted alcoholic men who evidently voted for Trump and then committed suicide. Ask Politalker, he started it.

Your post sounds like you still have a drug/alcohol problem. Or is it just mental illness.

Nope, sorry. And the status of my mental health may be up for debate, but rest assured that if there is any illness it is NOT caused by any politician!
Thank you for your service

[Old Trapper]

[QUOTE=Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez;2966599]

So I guess I nailed it, huh?

Not even close.

Nothing. But you should start a thread on the subject if you're that passionate about it. This one is about depressed white, drug addicted alcoholic men who evidently voted for Trump and then committed suicide. Ask Politalker, he started it.

Are they not the ones that need the help Trump is eliminating?

Nope, sorry. And the status of my mental health may be up for debate, but rest assured that if there is any illness it is NOT caused by any politician!
Thank you for your service

Who said the illness was caused by a politician? It is the cure I am speaking of that is being denied,

TY for your service.

[RB 60]

Perhaps these middle aged white men are taking what the liberals say about them to heart. Us middle aged white guys are constantly being told that we are the cause of all the world's problems.

They say us old white guys are even worse.

[RB 60]

People are finding life increasingly depressing in Trump's America.

In some cases, just too depressing to want to live.

Suicides are up.

Drug abuse is up.

Alcoholism up.

It doesn't seem like Trump is making America great at all.

He seems to be making America a very depressing place to live.

Wall Street is doing great.

Main Street, not so good.

Where are the good secure jobs with good benefits he promised?

Many people are finding the American Dream just too elusive.

Under President Trump's leadership, they have lost hope, lost the will to live.

It's so sad having this narcissistic conman in the White House.

We have little to look up to besides hatred and vitriol.

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Life Expectancy In Decline

So Trump is the sole reason life expectancy has dropped? Suicides and drug overdoses are a major contributing
factor to the overall average age drop, not any politician. Obama didn't depress us conservatives nearly as bad
as Trump did you chickenshit libtards. Own it, you just can't take losing without an outcry of excuses. Whaaa.
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"He seems to be making America a very depressing place to live."

How is that? The economy is doing well, jobs are plentiful. If you're so depressed, it's
obviously because you still cannot accept the fact that you lost an election. You libtards
cry about everything "offending" you now and you accuse conservatives of being racist to
continue widening the political division in our country. You lie like Jussie Smollett did.
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"Many people are finding the American Dream just too elusive."

Maybe it's because so many are too lazy to seek it? Entitlements seem to produce laziness.
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"Under President Trump's leadership, they have lost hope, lost the will to live."

Yeah, when colleges needed to hand out play-doh, hold cry-ins and cancel classes because of a
presidential election, along with the main stream media and their reporters being so distraught,
I'd say it's the whinny liberals who lost hope and the will to live. Let them die.
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"It's so sad having this narcissistic conman in the White House."

Ah yes, lets insult and blame the president because all you weak minded liberals
who won't take it upon yourselves to become responsible and contributing citizens.