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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    But it is disputable; because it has not been shown that removing the availability of guns from law abiding citizens make them safer from the criminals.
    But what has been proven is that those States with greater gun regulation has less gun violence than those with less

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-up/359395002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Bullets are needed to kill people. A gun with less bullets can kill less people. Having to reload will literally save lives.

    By the way, your signature really undercuts your argument.
    Now that you've expressed your opinion, may I prove you to be in error or will you just deny it and make excuses; because I have information that will refute your conclusion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    You're being ridiculous now.

    Changing the size of the magazine would make it harder to kill more people on a shooting spree.
    It would also make it less useful in a defensive encounter. Why to you want to punish law abiding citizens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Which is bullshit; unless you can explain why MILLIONS of people haven't been shot, seeing as how they own firearms.
    Hardly, the facts remain we have more guns out there than any other developed nation and we have more gun deaths than any other developed nation, and we do lead all developed nations in the number of gun related deaths per year

    And common sense dictates that if you have a gun in your house your probability of being hurt by that gun are astronomically higher than a guy who doesn't have a weapon in his residence, fact of proximity and probability

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    But what has been proven is that those States with greater gun regulation has less gun violence than those with less

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-up/359395002/
    From your article.

    more than half of all firearm fatalities were suicides.
    Doesn't that skew your claims about "gun violence"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    But what has been proven is that those States with greater gun regulation has less gun violence than those with less

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-up/359395002/
    Gun regulations mean nothing to a criminal, so do you have something that has excluded criminals killed by other criminals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    From your article.



    Doesn't that skew your claims about "gun violence"?
    It also doesn't exclude criminals that were killed by other criminals.

    You know, the ones who don't care about a State's gun regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Hardly, the facts remain we have more guns out there than any other developed nation and we have more gun deaths than any other developed nation, and we do lead all developed nations in the number of gun related deaths per year

    And common sense dictates that if you have a gun in your house your probability of being hurt by that gun are astronomically higher than a guy who doesn't have a weapon in his residence, fact of proximity and probability
    You haven't explained why there aren't MILLIONS of gun owners "hurt" by the weapons they have in their residence, if the fact gatherers are correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It would also make it less useful in a defensive encounter.
    Not really. You could easily scare off a group of thugs with a ten shooter.


    Why to you want to punish law abiding citizens?
    I don't. When you take a lighter away from a small child, you're not punishing the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Bullets are needed to kill people. A gun with less bullets can kill less people.
    Including assailants, who wish to do you and your family harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Now that you've expressed your opinion, may I prove you to be in error or will you just deny it and make excuses; because I have information that will refute your conclusion?
    You have information that disproves the theory that bullets are used to kill people? Or that reload times are real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Including assailants, who wish to do you and your family harm.
    You could chase off an assailant with ten bullets. You probably wouldn't even need to fire the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Not really. You could easily scare off a group of thugs with a ten shooter.




    I don't. When you take a lighter away from a small child, you're not punishing the child.
    But if you "ban" or restrict the availability to own a lighter, then you are punishing those who are legally able to own a lighter.

    And how is it going to scare off the "thugs", when they have 15 or 20 round magazines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    You have information that disproves the theory that bullets are used to kill people? Or that reload times are real?
    The bullet "theory" is something that I never address.

    This was about you saying that restricting guns to 10 round magazines, will cause less people to die.

    Are you willing to stay on tangent or do you now intend to move the discussion; because I have irrefutable information that will show you're in error, regarding magazine size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Not really. You could easily scare off a group of thugs with a ten shooter.
    Complete and utter nonsense. Deadly force isn't intended to scare people off, it's intended to end the threat. "Not really" doesn't cut it. You have no right to limit my ability to protect myself and my family.

    I don't. When you take a lighter away from a small child, you're not punishing the child.
    We're not discussing children playing with lighters.
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