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    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    Actually universal healthcare doesn't necessarily mean socialist medicine.
    REALLY???!!! I find that to be an extremely stupid and laughable assertion. How does it NOT mean Government controlled socialism?

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    The other 32 developed nations have universal healthcare and many of them have the majority or all of healthcare insurance publicly funded through taxes rather than insurance premiums. But many of them either have a lot of private hospitals or mostly private hospitals. They do have public hospitals but there are still a lot of private healthcare options. These countries also tend to allow private insurance, and more some of them private insurance is suggested because public insurance only covers the basics.
    ALL of those countries have shitty delivery systems and long wait times for critical care; why do you think that is?

    The notion that they are cheaper when ALL of these nations have confiscatory level of taxation is laughable and stupid.

    NONE of those nations are innovative in their treatment and delivery systems as a result of the massive Government choke hold on their systems.

    What I find mind numbing are the low IQ leftist numbskulls who demand the same, shitty systems just because others have them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Tucker Carlson? Really?
    There you go again weak sauce; attacking the source without any facts. Were you born a pathetic moron?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne Frank View Post
    It's the majority of We the People,want Medicare For All
    REALLY? The majority are willful idiots who think Government is the answer? Can you prove this with something more credible than "you say so?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Americans are tired of living in fear that an accident or an illness can ruin their lives.
    STRAWMAN; Americans do not live in fear of an accident or illness. That is a LIE. No need to read through the rest of your lie filled screed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Come on, he's employing Tucker Carlson as his source,
    And you are employing what? A whiny tirade about a source. How pathetic and stupid are you? That was rhetorical; the stench of your ignorance and stupidity is palpable.

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    you think he is going to understand anything you explain?
    We know you can't understand anything that is explained to you. Even after beating it into that thick, empty neanderthal skull a thousand times. You will still erupt like a moron.
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    Indeed, TD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Americans are tired of living in fear that an accident or an illness can ruin their lives. A serious illness can bankrupt a rich person. It can result in poor people getting no care or subquality care. The last election seemed to indicate that the people are sick of being taken advantage of by the medical industry. Maybe Americans are ready for a change. There is no reason to keep a system that allows millions to go with no care and poor people unable to afford copays.
    The American system has nothing to recommend it. It is by far the most expensive, it does not cover many millions and provides poor results. It would be great to live without the fear of medical problems destroying your life.

    I think we should take about 20 states and divide them up into 3 or 4 groups based on rural/urban mix, population densities, coastal/inland considerations, and a few other factors. Use these groups as experiments. In this case, test out extreme medicare approach in one group, in another group, test out some other solutions, in a third group keep things pretty much as they are. Try that for 10 years and then examine the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPF View Post
    I think we should take about 20 states and divide them up into 3 or 4 groups based on rural/urban mix, population densities, coastal/inland considerations, and a few other factors. Use these groups as experiments. In this case, test out extreme medicare approach in one group, in another group, test out some other solutions, in a third group keep things pretty much as they are. Try that for 10 years and then examine the results.
    What's stopping liberals from moving to certain locations and setting this up, by themselves.

    Just think how they could then show the rest of the US, how it works.

    OH, WAIT!!

    SoCal could do that right now and that would account for two areas, NY could be another, and I'm sure that another liberal State would be able to be convinced.

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    The midterm where the Repubs got whipped was much due to healthcare. The voters asked, put it in the top of their lists for their vote.

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    Really? Well it appears tRump and his antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies want Americans to drop dead with no healthcare and nothing to show for their years of hard earned taxpayer benefits.
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    So it appears you are attacking President FDR's policies of creating taxpayer paid methods at establishing Social Security and other earned benefits. Actually it appears the type of social method you trolls deserve is the method of taking a dip in a outhouse toilet, and for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    So it appears you are attacking President FDR's policies of creating taxpayer paid methods at establishing Social Security and other earned benefits. Actually it appears the type of social method you trolls deserve is the method of taking a dip in a outhouse toilet, and for free.
    So you're yet another one that didn't plan well as has to rely on SS as a sole means of revenue. How sad.

    Don't worry about those of us you call trolls. We've planned ahead. SS distributions will be accepted because the contributions were required.

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    Furthermore, GOPers want to destroy the well being of society with higher taxes, no healthcare, no quality education, no jobs and no true Democracy. Yet as demonstrated GOPers have lead a campaign that is working on the destruction of the common decency and liberties of humanity as a result of the mostly GOPer led South being a utter cesspool of failure:

    The South’s Economy Is Falling Behind: ‘All of a Sudden the Money Stops Flowing’
    Policies that once drove the region’s growth have proven inadequate in an economy shaped by the forces of globalization

    NATCHEZ, Miss.—The American South spent much of the past century trying to overcome its position as the country’s poorest and least-developed region, with considerable success: By the 2009 recession it had nearly caught up economically with its northern and western neighbors.
    That trend has now reversed. Since 2009, the South’s convergence has turned to divergence, as the region recorded the country’s slowest growth in output and wages, the lowest labor-force participation rate and the highest unemployment rate."


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sou...omments_sector

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    REALLY???!!! I find that to be an extremely stupid and laughable assertion. How does it NOT mean Government controlled socialism?



    ALL of those countries have shitty delivery systems and long wait times for critical care; why do you think that is?

    The notion that they are cheaper when ALL of these nations have confiscatory level of taxation is laughable and stupid.

    NONE of those nations are innovative in their treatment and delivery systems as a result of the massive Government choke hold on their systems.

    What I find mind numbing are the low IQ leftist numbskulls who demand the same, shitty systems just because others have them.
    Maybe distraff isn't aware of the level of government involved in the form of universal healthcare that's being proposed? Or doesn't care? Or is simply too stupid to understand what socialism is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Furthermore, GOPers want to destroy the well being of society with higher taxes, no healthcare, no quality education, no jobs and no true Democracy. Yet as demonstrated GOPers have lead a campaign that is working on the destruction of the common decency and liberties of humanity as a result of the mostly GOPer led South being a utter cesspool of failure:

    The South’s Economy Is Falling Behind: ‘All of a Sudden the Money Stops Flowing’
    Policies that once drove the region’s growth have proven inadequate in an economy shaped by the forces of globalization

    NATCHEZ, Miss.—The American South spent much of the past century trying to overcome its position as the country’s poorest and least-developed region, with considerable success: By the 2009 recession it had nearly caught up economically with its northern and western neighbors.
    That trend has now reversed. Since 2009, the South’s convergence has turned to divergence, as the region recorded the country’s slowest growth in output and wages, the lowest labor-force participation rate and the highest unemployment rate."


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sou...omments_sector
    Demanding the government do for you what you should be doing for yourself isn't common decency. That's the left wing agenda.

    I seriously doubt you've ever been in the South. You're going on what others that have never been here say about it. Strange how someone that claims to know so much actually knows so little.

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