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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    My wife and I have a saying: "He/ she is speaking Southern".

    "Might could..."
    "Sure don't..."

    And our favorite: "Shitfire!" Two things that are bad, so why not combine them?
    Have you ever seen the “Sh*t Southern Women Say” series on YouTube? It’s hilarious.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9z7CjOb6XqI

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Have you ever seen the “Sh*t Southern Women Say” series on YouTube? It’s hilarious.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9z7CjOb6XqI
    Seen it.

    Every NC State grad says "do what?" in the first two words of a response to a question. Then you repeat the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    My wife and I have a saying: "He/ she is speaking Southern".

    "Might could..."
    "Sure don't..."

    And our favorite: "Shitfire!" Two things that are bad, so why not combine them?
    They do...haven't you ever heard the Southern term witchadidja?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Have you ever seen the “Sh*t Southern Women Say” series on YouTube? It’s hilarious.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9z7CjOb6XqI
    You married a Southern gal didn't you? Watch out if they say "Bless your/his/her heart" to you. It's how Southern ladies politely call you an idiot. Example. Look at Earl out there spraying diesel fuel on a hornets nest....bless his heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Seen it.

    Every NC State grad says "do what?" in the first two words of a response to a question. Then you repeat the question.
    That's better than Michigan grads. You ask them a question and their response is normally "Derp, derp".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    You married a Southern gal didn't you? Watch out if they say "Bless your/his/her heart" to you. It's how Southern ladies politely call you an idiot. Example. Look at Earl out there spraying diesel fuel on a hornets nest....bless his heart.
    Yep, she’s from Dallas and she said that a lot when we were dating. I honestly thought it was her way of saying how much she was into me. I thought it was a southern thing. I loved it. Little did I know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    They do...haven't you ever heard the Southern term witchadidja?
    No.

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    Mispronunciation has complex causes, often far back in history In Britain, for instance, ruling groups impose their language, and but for the 100 Years War we'd all be speaking French now. Somewhere way back, as far as we can make out, a very small group of German mercenaries managed to impose themselves as an aristocracy on the vastly larger British population of the eastern provinces, but it was quite easy to turn yourself into one of them if you learned their language, with the result that as compared with any other dialect of German English has about thirty specific features, all of them typical of 'Celtic' British. The one thing you must NEVER do however was understand your own language: you had to pretend that was impossibly difficult, with the result that 'English' people can't possibly pronounce 'Welsh' names, or learn simple rules like that in the latter language 'f' is pronounced as in English 'of', 'ff' as in English 'off'. You become part of the power-group everywhere by playing these silly games, especially with names, and it is almost unbelievably boring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Mispronunciation has complex causes, often far back in history In Britain, for instance, ruling groups impose their language, and but for the 100 Years War we'd all be speaking French now. Somewhere way back, as far as we can make out, a very small group of German mercenaries managed to impose themselves as an aristocracy on the vastly larger British population of the eastern provinces, but it was quite easy to turn yourself into one of them if you learned their language, with the result that as compared with any other dialect of German English has about thirty specific features, all of them typical of 'Celtic' British. The one thing you must NEVER do however was understand your own language: you had to pretend that was impossibly difficult, with the result that 'English' people can't possibly pronounce 'Welsh' names, or learn simple rules like that in the latter language 'f' is pronounced as in English 'of', 'ff' as in English 'off'. You become part of the power-group everywhere by playing these silly games, especially with names, and it is almost unbelievably boring!
    The Welsh language is a real turn-ff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    The Welsh language is a real turn-ff.
    Well you ffuck off, fforeign ffart, or phuck off, or fuque orph, whatever! It has a logical spelling system: you should try it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Mispronunciation has complex causes, often far back in history In Britain, for instance, ruling groups impose their language, and but for the 100 Years War we'd all be speaking French now. Somewhere way back, as far as we can make out, a very small group of German mercenaries managed to impose themselves as an aristocracy on the vastly larger British population of the eastern provinces, but it was quite easy to turn yourself into one of them if you learned their language, with the result that as compared with any other dialect of German English has about thirty specific features, all of them typical of 'Celtic' British. The one thing you must NEVER do however was understand your own language: you had to pretend that was impossibly difficult, with the result that 'English' people can't possibly pronounce 'Welsh' names, or learn simple rules like that in the latter language 'f' is pronounced as in English 'of', 'ff' as in English 'off'. You become part of the power-group everywhere by playing these silly games, especially with names, and it is almost unbelievably boring!
    My theory on dialects is that people deemed inferior by an upper class purposely use slang and mispronunciation to show disrespect to those who look down on them. Thus the "Cockney" dialect in the UK, the "Bahstin" accent in New England and "Ebonics" in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    My theory on dialects is that people deemed inferior by an upper class purposely use slang and mispronunciation to show disrespect to those who look down on them. Thus the "Cockney" dialect in the UK, the "Bahstin" accent in New England and "Ebonics" in the US.
    Yes, but - the difficulty is that some people want to impress those with power, and a lot of those in power can simply ignore the disrespect of 'inferiors', slap them down, or get others (Brummies or Liverpudlians, say) to compete with Cockneys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    No.
    I'm sure you probably have. In context of a sentence it's used like this.

    "Hey y'all didn't bring a log splitter in your truck witchadidja?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I'm sure you probably have. In context of a sentence it's used like this.

    "Hey y'all didn't bring a log splitter in your truck witchadidja?".
    Nope, sorry. And the type of log splitters we use here are trailered, not puny ones that can be lifted into trucks...

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